Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:12 pm  

Rangi has been charged with a Grade B - Reckless tackle on Hardaker which carries a 1 to 2 game suspension.

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:15 pm  

Should get away with it, outside factors influencing the case (i.e. Sky, McDermott) and an inconclusive video.

If he gets banned then Cas might as well not bother playing any more games this season because the RFL will be setting out the stall for the "we are corrupt, bent bar stewards" early this year.

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:30 pm  

The biggest load of crap i have ever seen i have watched the DVD over and over, and at no time did Chases shoulder hit Weekaker on the chin as their coach says, one thing is for sure if he plays against the Aussies next week the Leeds club will have to make sure they have his dummy on hand.
This game we all love to watch is being ruined by the people who have no idea what they are doing, instead of sitting down looking for things what dont exist they should be out looking to promote the game.

But then again it was Leeds who went off crying, what more can a RL fan expect

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:12 pm  

Look, I know the reactions have been a bit off from Leeds staff - but:

This has nothing at all to do with raised hands, intent or anything of the kind - the only question to be asked is "was contact with the head made" the answer is clearly yes eventually, therefore there is a charge and a disciplinary hearing.

That is fine. Without hyperbole and emotion, there is an active player protection mandate and contact with the head be it deliberate, reckless or accidental is still contact with the head. As i have cited elsewhere, I happen to think Sam Moa's shot on Julien Rinaldi last year was a blinder, but it was head contact and he got a ban.

On t'other forum I said he would get a ban and we wouldn't appeal and I stand by that - take out the emotion of the intent and the silly comments and it is fairly simple. I am not saying it is right, I am merely saying there has been some consistency in this area for a change.
Also, ask yourself if this had been Bailey on Shenton or Sinfield on Owen - I am pretty sure that you would still have been able to hear "off, off, off" chants echoing down Wheldon Road!!

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:20 pm  

Well if he doesn't play on Saturday it will give Waldorf & Statler on the Sky team something to waffle on about other than the love in they'll be having with the Bulls and its iconic ground.

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:01 pm  

There was no contact with the head if you have the DVD watch it again i have watched it over and over and can't see any head contact, whether the reactions from the fans are strong or not.

the ref thought it was fine and he is at the side of play, instead of the game reaching perfection, it's at the other end of the scale, it's getting pathetic, a player posts on twitter saying it's an elbow so the RFL charge a player, we can stop all this uncertainty by changing the rules to tig & pass

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:31 pm  

If Rangi is to get a ban.... What are the options at half back?

Milner-Ellis?
Ellis-Clark?
Tansey-Ellis?
Orr( )-Ellis?

I'd be tempted to go with either the 1st two options...think it would be better leaving Tansey at full back,pointless moving to many players around like Matterson used to do.

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:34 pm  

I am a Rhino fan and admit Cas deserved their victory with better completion and a lot less errors. The penalties we gave at the end of the game deserved to cost us.

However the 'tackle by Chase' deserves a ban. Both feet off the ground arm still swinging forward after Hardaker is going down, Hardaker knocked out cold, how can people say there was no head contact. The ref did not think it was fine or it would not have gone on report, (he was not sure). Brian Mc was very composed after the game and only said he wanted to see it again. There was no demanding this or that. The tackle reminded me of the one last year when chase broke the jaw of the Featherstone player.

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:42 pm  

illy wrote:

Both feet off the ground

Wrong, myth perpetuated by serial idiot Terry O'Connor.

illy wrote:

arm still swinging forward after Hardaker is going down

If by "swinging" you mean "lifting" then yes, it's this thing called momentum, it happens in the MAJORITY of hits.

illy wrote:

Hardaker knocked out cold, how can people say there was no head contact.

1. No he wasn't, the Sky highlights show him talking to Chase and he walked off the pitch.
2. Concussions occur when the brain impacts the inside of the skull so you don't need to make contact with the head to cause a concussion - whiplash can do it.

illy wrote:

The ref did not think it was fine or it would not have gone on report, (he was not sure).

Please learn the rules of the game before you start spouting stupid lines like this, putting an incident on report means the ref either: A) Did not see it at all B) deemed the act to be illegal but not worthy of a card but worthy of a video review...Tim Roby judged the tackle to be legal, hence his decision of knock on, Castleford head & feed at the scrum.

illy wrote:

rian Mc was very composed after the game and only said he wanted to see it again. There was no demanding this or that. The tackle reminded me of the one last year when chase broke the jaw of the Featherstone player.

He also didn't need to talk about it the way he did; himself, O'Connor & Hardaker have made it a prejudiced case now and in a real court of law it would be thrown out straight away due to comments made by the mentioned people.

It was also nothing like the hit on Ropati, have a nice day and please learn the rules of the game.

Re: Rangi Charged : Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:51 pm  

illy wrote:

I am a Rhino fan and admit Cas deserved their victory with better completion and a lot less errors. The penalties we gave at the end of the game deserved to cost us.

However the 'tackle by Chase' deserves a ban. Both feet off the ground arm still swinging forward after Hardaker is going down, Hardaker knocked out cold, how can people say there was no head contact. The ref did not think it was fine or it would not have gone on report, (he was not sure). Brian Mc was very composed after the game and only said he wanted to see it again. There was no demanding this or that. The tackle reminded me of the one last year when chase broke the jaw of the Featherstone player.

Totally agree with this. Just watched it and there's just no need for Chase to do that! Players with a bit of courage about them would bend their back a little, dip the shoulder and try and dig into the ribs with a fair tackle! Chase' response said it all for me, quickly going to check on Hardaker's condition and feigning concern just to try and save his own skin, which seemed to have worked at the time. Horrible player.