Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:46 pm  

Interesting reading:- http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_106 ... erres.html Looks like a wake-up call for teams not getting the punters in like London, and clubs like ourselves with poor facilities.

Interesting reading:- http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_106 ... erres.html Looks like a wake-up call for teams not getting the punters in like London, and clubs like ourselves with poor facilities.

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:45 pm  

Interesting point about the crowds although its a bit of a 'chicken and egg' argument. ie. Did the large crowds result in increased revenue which led to success on the field, or did success on the field prompt large crowds to turn up and watch?

Speaking from a Cas point of view it's quite clear that crowds dropped off last season as a result of our poor form on the field. From recollection I believe this is the first time our average attendance has been below 7000 since we returned from the lower leagues.

Large crowds aren't necessarily consistent with high revenue in any event, Bradford being the obvious example with their cut price season ticket deals. Rather than harping on about crowd size it would be more relevant to hear the actual matchday income generated by the various clubs. This is something that is readily referred to by premierleague football clubs.

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:24 pm  

if Cas put the price down to the level of Waky & Bradford, we might get up to 8 or 9 thou, for a match day, folk argue we would sell more beer & burgers, but when you go to the bars at half time, you cant get near the bar without missing 10 Min's of the game, same with the refreshments, you can cue for the full interval and still not get to the counter, and to be honest, 3 clubs have reduced the entry price, two have gone bust and the third has decided its not working, it will be interesting to see how many tickets the giants sell this year now the price has gone up

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:55 pm  

Which 2 of the 3 clubs have gone bust "while" selling reduced season tickets?

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:01 am  

financialtimes wrote:

Which 2 of the 3 clubs have gone bust "while" selling reduced season tickets?

Bulls are obviously one. Don't know who the other could be.

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:55 pm  

the wording might have been a bit premature, but cheep season tickets are not the way to go, how long will Mr Glover be able to keep the prices low, im not sure how many tickets are friends over the common have sold at present, but will all the newbies still buy when the price doubles, i hope that most stay but thats the risk you take, in money terms for every one we sell they have to sell two. It has been made clear to us that we need as much brass as possible and the prices show the differences in the clubs, were not debt free,

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:33 pm  

The difficult thing about reduced STs is that it looks good on paper in terms of attendances but in terms of revenues and incomes it isn't good. It also doesn't help in terms of spending the cap.

Sooner or later the deals are going to have to be flipped to a more higher price.

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:43 pm  

All this should be looked at by the RFL, like you say it looks good on the terraces but the books don't add up, unless the money is subsidized buy a rich benefactor, its a recopy for disaster,

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:53 pm  

Tigerade wrote:

Bulls are obviously one. Don't know who the other could be.

where is the word WHILE in my post, it says three clubs have reduced there price, Waky, Bulls, Giants and 2 have gone bust

Re: Steve Ferres - SL Clubs must change : Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:36 pm  

frank5613 wrote:

the wording might have been a bit premature, but cheep season tickets are not the way to go, how long will Mr Glover be able to keep the prices low, im not sure how many tickets are friends over the common have sold at present, but will all the newbies still buy when the price doubles, i hope that most stay but thats the risk you take, in money terms for every one we sell they have to sell two. It has been made clear to us that we need as much brass as possible and the prices show the differences in the clubs, were not debt free,

Fully wrote:

The difficult thing about reduced STs is that it looks good on paper in terms of attendances but in terms of revenues and incomes it isn't good. It also doesn't help in terms of spending the cap.

Sooner or later the deals are going to have to be flipped to a more higher price.

It depends in what context you look at it. If like us you still maintain an healthy pay on the day support the plan is very feasible. Last season we had around 50/50 ratio of season tickets to pay on the gates. I don't know the exact numbers but my guess is that the income generated from crowds of 8k average (with the cheap STs) will be more than 6K average with without (2011 average). If we have maximised our income it certainly looks better in real life than on paper. Glover has managed to attract an extra 2k through the gates and into the game at no extra cost, something that he should be credited for don't you think?

No doubt Glovers agenda is to slowly increase the price of a season ticket, while at the same time bring along as many as possible. A 25% increase in price while beating last years sales is great a achievement and shouldn't be looked down on.