Excellent Point ... : Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:58 pm  

... made by Phil Clarke tonight:

"it's interesting that both Watts for KR and Gledhill for Wakey both started out at the Tigers but left for some reason"

When you add Boyle et al to this growing list of young players we are letting go to play first grade at other clubs we should be very concerned.

a) out small squad could do with such additions
b) we are keeping ones such as Massey instead????
c) despite being one of the strongest SL clubs at junior level year in year out, why do we blood less than all the other clubs?

Owen and Westerman came in a few years ago now.
I'd argue we've added nothing of note since to our first grade set-up (Thompson might work out, but whereas dozens of other players are getting regular rugby at stronger clubs, we're sending him out on loan).

As to all the above - WHY?

Re: Excellent Point ... : Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:07 pm  

Massey is better then Boyle
Watts was a bad influence and a billy big head
Gledhill...well they've dropped a clanger

Re: Excellent Point ... : Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:37 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

Massey is better then Boyle
Watts was a bad influence and a billy big head
Gledhill...well they've dropped a clanger

Massey. Is that why he's getting so much more game time than Boyle did
Watts. Man management, Justin Morgan must have what TM doesn't
Gledhill. How many more are we going to drop before the team does

Re: Excellent Point ... : Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:48 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

Massey is better then Boyle
Watts was a bad influence and a billy big head
Gledhill...well they've dropped a clanger

Tell me one thing Massey has EVER done?
I don't think I've ever seen him make an impact tackle / hit the advantage line / make an off-load.

Boyle - regularly came on and lifted the side, what he lacked in size, he made up for with determination and passion.

* I honestly, really didn't want his to degenerate into a knocking Massey thread it was just one of many points I initially made.

Re: Excellent Point ... : Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:55 pm  

I love it. People are quick to judge and abuse Massey based on very few appearances yet want Matterson to play the kids.....YOU'RE CONTRADICTING YOURSELVES!

Re: Excellent Point ... : Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:33 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

I love it. People are quick to judge and abuse Massey based on very few appearances yet want Matterson to play the kids.....YOU'RE CONTRADICTING YOURSELVES!

Nonsense, these people are judging Watts, Boyle and Gledhill based on what they are doing on the pitch for other clubs when they should be doing it for Cas Tigers. They have all shown what they can perform to a high standard, Massey hasn't---for whatever reason.

The player development at Cas is pathetic-----end of argument. Ask yourself how many really promising kids you've seen over the past 5 years, just how many have made it in the first team at CAS TIGERS?

The set up is run by amateurs who should be kicked out

Re: Excellent Point ... : Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:38 pm  

Tigerpie wrote:

The set up is run by amateurs who should be kicked out

It's not the people who coach the kids it's MATTERSON not giving them a chance and bringing in thug Aussie nobodies like Faumuina and cast offs from other teams like Cooper, why not play Gledhill instead of Faumuina in spells last year? why not give him a first team contract for this year? why get Cooper when there's WALKER and MASSEY already at the club!

Re: Excellent Point ... : Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:18 am  

I remember after our grand final win in 2007. Matterson said in the interview on sky after something along the lines of 'we can bring these kids through the juniors we have in our area.' Other than Westy and Owen who else have we allowed into the team for a prolonged run? There does seem to be a reluctance from the management to give our kids a go in the team. I remember the first game away to Leeds this year. Matterson talked up John Davies and how he wouldnt hesitate giving him a go. Then against Bradford (i think it was) we see Ryan Clayton picked ahead of him. Not knocking Clayton but he hardly sets our team alight..and surely having someone like Davies in the side is better for the player and his development.

Re: Excellent Point ... : Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:12 am  

Towns88 wrote:

I love it. People are quick to judge and abuse Massey based on very few appearances yet want Matterson to play the kids.....YOU'RE CONTRADICTING YOURSELVES!

There is no contradiction here, whatsoever.

I have never stated we should arbitrarily throw a load of kids in - on the contrary, in fact, I'm saying that's not an option because the talent pool has seemingly dried up - partly down to letting them go to other clubs and, ostensibly, because over the last half-decade we are not turning top academy players into first-grade standard ones.

Re: Excellent Point ... : Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:49 am  

Gaslight wrote:

Tigerpie wrote:

The set up is run by amateurs who should be kicked out

It's not the people who coach the kids it's MATTERSON not giving them a chance and bringing in thug Aussie nobodies like Faumuina and cast offs from other teams like Cooper, why not play Gledhill instead of Faumuina in spells last year? why not give him a first team contract for this year? why get Cooper when there's WALKER and MASSEY already at the club!

Is Matterson not in charge of this bunch of Amateurs? Because I include him in my reckoning!!