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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:35 pm  
TB abuse is abuse no context no sliding scale its as simple as that, thats equality and thats fairness, unless you feel some are more equal than others over to you!!!!!
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:39 pm  
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Then you are as bad and shame on you - calling anyone names be it about their sexuality, race or even the colour of the hair is a form of bullying. Put it this way if you had a child with ginger hair and all their classmates were calling them names and they were coming home crying then would you not be down at the school wanting something done about it - damn right you would!! Nobody knows how James Graham feels, he may have been picked on at school about his hair and reminders can be upsetting. What if Cas fans come to your place and starting changing "ginger bstd" to Riley then is that ok or will we get reported for that as well.


First of all. I am not "as bad". The point I was making in that in our circle of friends we are able to make ginger jokes because we know he takes it as a joke and gives as good as he gets (it has been that way since we were three!). However none of us would dream of making a joke about the gay or ethnic minority members of our group. As for any form of abuse being "bullying", I don't know if there is a definition out there for bullying, but I am fairly confident that acts of bullying must carry some form of malice or intention. Thus calling my best mate of 15 years a ginger related joke when I know he will take it as a joke and reply with something equally funny cannot be called bullying.


As for Cas fans calling Riley ginger, I wouldn't be offended and I bet he wouldn't consider it much more than a minor distraction too. Cas fans certainly wouldn't get in trouble for calling him ginger.

At the end of the day you cannot equate generic sporting banter with racial/homophobic abuse. As a club your time and efforts would be better spent backing the players and weeding out the idiots.
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:45 pm  
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First of all. I am not "as bad". The point I was making in that in our circle of friends we are able to make ginger jokes because we know he takes it as a joke and gives as good as he gets (it has been that way since we were three!). However none of us would dream of making a joke about the gay or ethnic minority members of our group. As for any form of abuse being "bullying", I don't know if there is a definition out there for bullying, but I am fairly confident that acts of bullying must carry some form of malice or intention. Thus calling my best mate of 15 years a ginger related joke when I know he will take it as a joke and reply with something equally funny cannot be called bullying.


As for Cas fans calling Riley ginger, I wouldn't be offended and I bet he wouldn't consider it much more than a minor distraction too. Cas fans certainly wouldn't get in trouble for calling him ginger.

At the end of the day you cannot equate generic sporting banter with racial/homophobic abuse. As a club your time and efforts would be better spent backing the players and weeding out the idiots.


i take it you have read this policy http://www.therfl.co.uk/community/page.php?areaid=30 , problem is you dont understand it............
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First of all. I am not "as bad". The point I was making in that in our circle of friends we are able to make ginger jokes because we know he takes it as a joke and gives as good as he gets (it has been that way since we were three!). However none of us would dream of making a joke about the gay or ethnic minority members of our group. As for any form of abuse being "bullying", I don't know if there is a definition out there for bullying, but I am fairly confident that acts of bullying must carry some form of malice or intention. Thus calling my best mate of 15 years a ginger related joke when I know he will take it as a joke and reply with something equally funny cannot be called bullying.


As for Cas fans calling Riley ginger, I wouldn't be offended and I bet he wouldn't consider it much more than a minor distraction too. Cas fans certainly wouldn't get in trouble for calling him ginger.

At the end of the day you cannot equate generic sporting banter with racial/homophobic abuse. As a club your time and efforts would be better spent backing the players and weeding out the idiots.


i take it you have read this policy http://www.therfl.co.uk/community/page.php?areaid=30 , problem is you dont understand it............
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:52 pm  
I clicked the link but all that came up was a bunch of links under the heading "Resources".

What I am pointing out is the de facto position of these rules, law and regulations.

Don't tell me that I "don't understand it", I am just being realistic.

Your fans broke the law, the club failed to enforce it, you have been fined. Back your players, weed out the idiots. You have been in great form over the past few games, and lets face it as a club you need to unite in order to ensure you stay in SL over the coming seasons (I think everyone knows you are real contenders to miss out next time).

I haven't had time to study the facts or the laws, but I am telling you, clubs might try to restrict people saying it, but you will never see a club fined to the extent Castelford were for chants about hair colour.

A good example of the de facto position of these rules is that today in Wrexham, whilst Ganson was warming up the crowd game him a few jovial rounds of "you fat bstd". What did Ganson do? Laughed, and ran along patting his belly in response to the crowd!
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:56 pm  
if you click on the powerpoints and posters it is the rfl respect policy for ALL clubs to follow
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:57 pm  
Right, well instead of worrying about that put together a campaign to find the people who chanted, get the banned, and try to overturn the fine.
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:59 pm  
This is the bit I don't get...
I take it there wasn't an anti gay demo and people were not threatening him....
And as he has himself said he has the mickey taken out by his team mates...
And we are saying abuse is abuse and is not tolerated even on a sliding scale...
So why are people not surprised at the severity?
If banter is changed to abuse and fined then all banter must be stopped and thus sealing the worms in the can..
And also why did the RFL not chastise Cas then get them to partner in a larger more positive action in education of the masses? I would imagine Cas would have got inboard big style, Pink day anyone?
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:01 pm  
Where has Gareth Thomas gone on record as saying his team mates make jokes about him being gay?!

That would really shock me if he had.
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:15 pm  
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Where has Gareth Thomas gone on record as saying his team mates make jokes about him being gay?!

That would really shock me if he had.

"But I love them taking the mickey. We've got another Australian on the wing, Nick Youngquest, and he's a gay icon. He's been on the cover of Attitude but he's comfortable in his [straight] sexuality. It still gives the boys a laugh because they say to me: 'Oooo, he's not so happy now you're taking over.' Me and Nick are good mates and we'll walk in the room together and someone will shout: 'Here come the girls!'"
Here you go starter for one

And a little porkie pie for another, Or is this the truth and the RFL are doing this on their own back :THINK:
Gareth never made an issue of the chants or complained to anybody; the story simply took on a life of its own when it was heard by so many others who acted on it. As far as Gareth is concerned, it's done and dusted now. Mmmm Well well well
Matt King's Barber wrote:
Where has Gareth Thomas gone on record as saying his team mates make jokes about him being gay?!

That would really shock me if he had.

"But I love them taking the mickey. We've got another Australian on the wing, Nick Youngquest, and he's a gay icon. He's been on the cover of Attitude but he's comfortable in his [straight] sexuality. It still gives the boys a laugh because they say to me: 'Oooo, he's not so happy now you're taking over.' Me and Nick are good mates and we'll walk in the room together and someone will shout: 'Here come the girls!'"
Here you go starter for one

And a little porkie pie for another, Or is this the truth and the RFL are doing this on their own back :THINK:
Gareth never made an issue of the chants or complained to anybody; the story simply took on a life of its own when it was heard by so many others who acted on it. As far as Gareth is concerned, it's done and dusted now. Mmmm Well well well
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Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:17 pm  
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ma ... -crusaders this is the article its taken from enjoy.
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