I could think of a few names he could call himself next.
In my experiences (i have a close family relative with a disabitity)people are very quick to form opinions, and generally very quick to understand and apologise when explained to them the reasons why.
Says alot about Sandal Wildcat/Gary Price fan club/Trinitarian WF2 doesn't it?
"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League"
However I think you should keep in mind the "domino effect" that can occur when your nearest & dearest takes a step forward. Cast your mind back to 07, when you were granted planning permission it cast huge doubts over our project, the added dimension of having another stadium (appear) to be built just around the corner makes a scheme with "hurdles" seem almost insurmountable. Fans jump on the "your screwed bandwagon", which leads to the media taking the same stance (as we all know how lazy some journalists are). Sponsors become harder to come by, players become reluctant to sign long deals- the problem is exasperated in many ways.
Before you know it the whole RL community is casting doubt over your viability as a SL club.
All of what you saw (and some reveled in) could very well happen to Castleford SHOULD Newmarket get the nod.
Quick question (& answer honestly) do you see 2 stadiums being built? Most, myself included, have maintained that only 1 stadium will ever be built, would you say you subscribe to this notion?Newmarket is far from sorted & has never been plain sailing, but as I see things there are a lot less problems to overcome.
Not in time for the next license round. If by then one of us (I concede it looks more likely to be Wakey at present) at least has building underway the other will be praying for a miracle reprieve courtesy of other clubs self-destructing (a la Crusaders). In that situation Wakey, who have arguably passed through the last chance saloon already, would IMO be more vulnerable than Cas and less likely, if demoted, to fare well enough in the Championship to make a rapid return, regardless of whether NM later came to fruition.
Bottom line...only in something resembling the above scenario can I envisage 2 new stadia in WMDC and even then only one of them would be hosting SL fixtures.
I still maintain - and think - that both stadiums will be built. I have absolutely no worries regards Cas's. With Wakefield's the PI is the obstacle but even so, the future is very unclear after that. I think the Inspector will smack on an absolute load of conditions to any permissions and I think the project will have to be scaled down somewhat. Additionally, YCP said the stadium will be built for the next licensing period, which means they don't technically have to start building until 2014 (next licensing period is 2015-2017). I think the financials are also very unclear.
Newmarket getting built will have zero impact on Glasshoughton. We already have Full PP for a stadium and we have an asset that can still be sold.
Since you've offered your "thoughts" on NM, i just have one for you on GH. If NM is passed and we've crossed all of your other obstacles, by the time Cas are in the position to start building GH, IS IT a POSSIBILITY that, what with the economic climate being what it is, the view on the need for two new stadia being built in the district may have changed? What i am suggesting is that GHs FPP has been passed, but as yet that is based on no other stadia being built in the district at that time of being passed. Due to NM going to PI, it cannot have been taken into consideration by the planners and should NM then pass the PI it would/could alter the horizon for GH. So if NM goes through is it a possibility that in fact NM could have a lot more than zero impact on GH than you think. FWIW i hope we are both in new stadia in plenty of time for the next round of franchises comes around, and someone else cops it or the league remains the same size or grows accordingly. But we all know/assume, it doesn't work like that.
Since you've offered your "thoughts" on NM, i just have one for you on GH. If NM is passed and we've crossed all of your other obstacles, by the time Cas are in the position to start building GH, IS IT a POSSIBILITY that, what with the economic climate being what it is, the view on the need for two new stadia being built in the district may have changed? What i am suggesting is that GHs FPP has been passed, but as yet that is based on no other stadia being built in the district at that time of being passed. Due to NM going to PI, it cannot have been taken into consideration by the planners and should NM then pass the PI it would/could alter the horizon for GH. So if NM goes through is it a possibility that in fact NM could have a lot more than zero impact on GH than you think. FWIW i hope we are both in new stadia in plenty of time for the next round of franchises comes around, and someone else cops it or the league remains the same size or grows accordingly. But we all know/assume, it doesn' work like that.
Are you trying to say that NM getting passed would somehow alter the planning permission for GH?
I cant see that it would change things for cas at all, NM has no benefit for cas, NM it has much less earning and crowd potential for cas, so to answer his question no it wouldn't.
to clarify: my question is, IF NM goes through, would it make a difference to the planning needs of the district and therefore Cas, taking into account, GHs FPP was given when no other stadia in the district was taken into account, now that one (NM) is being built? Does the horizon alter for GH IF NM gets the go ahead, from a planning and economic POV, from within the district and particularly from the planning dept?
to clarify: my question is, IF NM goes through, would it make a difference to the planning needs of the district and therefore Cas, taking into account, GHs FPP was given when no other stadia in the district was taken into account, now that one (NM) is being built? Does the horizon alter for GH IF NM gets the go ahead, from a planning and economic POV, from within the district and particularly from the planning dept?
Planning for gh has been passed so if 10 50k stadiums were built in a ten mile radius we would still have planning permission.
If you got PP to extend your house and someone built another extension next door the council wont be altering your planning permission.
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