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| £35 and a s egg..........if they want a song thrush I think theirs a nest in the tree outside my works but they will have to wait now till next season, if not will a dozen free range eggs do.
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| Quote Speedy="Speedy"right then, if the developer is in place there must be a total cost been issued, or how else are they going to put tenders out, please tell how much is the stadium costing exactly'"
It's one of those mega draws buy a raffle ticket for a tenner and win a ground
Who gives a **** who as what built first as long as we have two super leagues teams still playing in the Wakefield area. I am not bothered if we share a ground or not.
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| Great Disney. go ask your club to phone Richard up tommorrow and say your happy to ground share at Glasshoughton...
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| Quote tigerman1+1="tigerman1+1"Great Disney. go ask your club to phone Richard up tommorrow and say your happy to ground share at Glasshoughton...'"
I only live just off junc 31 it's as close to me than what bellevue is  or stanley 
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| Quote Disney cat="Disney cat"It's one of those mega draws buy a raffle ticket for a tenner and win a ground
Who gives a **** who as what built first as long as we have two super leagues teams still playing in the Wakefield area. I am not bothered if we share a ground or not.'"
i agree,
but whats a pain in the ar$e is that this kid comes on and obviously doesnt know jack $h!t about appointments of architects that have to do detail designs, before any developers can even think about tenders,
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| Quote Sandal Wild Cat="Sandal Wild Cat"your close-minded will be your downfall.
enjoy the national leagues if you turn up your noses this time.'" Had a few beers this afternoon watchin the diggers on our new ground  drive down newmarket lane everyday to work not much happening down there pal. 
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| Diggers have been moving about for a few week at the side of Xscape on the hill, is that our ground then?
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| Quote cas all the way="cas all the way"Diggers have been moving about for a few week at the side of Xscape on the hill, is that our ground then?'" yer just at the side of train station
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| Quote Folly="Folly"Makes it even more laughable by the fact that Sandal Wildcat is the only one on here trying to convince everyone, but yet more reliable sources are choosing wisely when to say and state things.
Mind, he's ably assisted by Chissit and Mr Brown as the wave of trolling continues.'"
It seems to me Folly that you will say anything bar your prayers. First of all I would like to thank you for involving me in your argument. Do not confuse me with that idiot wakey fan who is determined to wind you up and I dont mean Mr Brown either. I would like you please to show on here where I have ever said anything detrimental about the proposed new ground for Cas if so I will apologise otherwise I would be grateful if you would refrain from spreading untrue rumours about me. I Wont hold my breath for an apology for I fear you are neither big enough or man enough to admit your wrong. As a matter of interest you might take up journalism you should do well I'm sure there is some backwater rag will employ you, when you grow up that is.
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| Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"You do actually know nothing don't you?
Diggers on the site finishing off the last of the prep work, the stadium at Glasshoughton will be well on its way by the time all this about the imaginary wet dream stadium for Wakefield even gets the ground cleared ready for foundations.'"
We must be further on if we've already named it...
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| People named Xanadu, Shangri La and Laputia. Doesn't mean they exist. Or ever will.
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| It doesn't mean they don't or wont either...
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| Quote tigerman1+1="tigerman1+1"£35 and a s egg..........if they want a song thrush I think theirs a nest in the tree outside my works but they will have to wait now till next season, if not will a dozen free range eggs do.'"
Havent heard that one for ages!! 
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| Quote tigerbaz="tigerbaz"Had a few beers this afternoon watchin the diggers on our new ground
drive down newmarket lane everyday to work not much happening down there pal.
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I think you will find that the diggers were working on a piece of land that will become available for commercial purposes. At this moment that land is provisionally ear marked for Castleford Tigers proposed new stadium. That situation can change at the drop of an hat! That is an uncomfortable fact that many on here will not accept.
No matter how many diggers you see buzzing around that particular piece of land, it will be nothing to do with the construction of the proposed new stadium. No construction can legally start without FULL planning permission. Can anyone tell us why after all this time of waiting this hasn't been put in?
It looks like a case off a lack of funds that have brought the project to a virtual stand still. The recent developments or lack of developments of the sale of Weldon Rd have probably brought the situation to crisis point imho.
I'm not saying that Cas won't get there new ground all im saying is that things are not what RW and his followers on here make out. You have some serious obstacles ahead if you want to progress, it's time to see reality!
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| Quote deeHell="deeHell" Can anyone tell us why after all this time of waiting this hasn't been put in?'"
Yes. But we can't be d when reading any of the news stories of recent weeks would enable you to find out for yourself.
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| Quote deeHell="deeHell"I think you will find that the diggers were working on a piece of land that will become available for commercial purposes. At this moment that land is provisionally ear marked for Castleford Tigers proposed new stadium. That situation can change at the drop of an hat! That is an uncomfortable fact that many on here will not accept. '"
Wrong, the land is there for a stadium, hotel, swimming baths and a NHS drop in centre - all attached to the ground (with exception of the hotel of course).
Quote deeHell="deeHell"No matter how many diggers you see buzzing around that particular piece of land, it will be nothing to do with the construction of the proposed new stadium. No construction can legally start without FULL planning permission. Can anyone tell us why after all this time of waiting this hasn't been put in?'"
Well done, the diggers are still flattening the land because if you never noticed, it was a hill (and still has a fair bit to go), full planning permission will go in once it's flattened I should imagine.
Quote deeHell="deeHell"It looks like a case off a lack of funds that have brought the project to a virtual stand still. The recent developments or lack of developments of the sale of Weldon Rd have probably brought the situation to crisis point imho.'"
Captain state the obvious  there's a lack of funds for one reason - the economy, which the local council have helped to bridge by giving both clubs land to secure loans against - funding gap...gone.
Quote deeHell="deeHell"I'm not saying that Cas won't get there new ground all im saying is that things are not what RW and his followers on here make out. You have some serious obstacles ahead if you want to progress, it's time to see reality!'"
Richard Wright isn't making it out to be anything, the last statement he made on the clubs website said they're looking for architects and a lead engineer - the last step before full planning permission and foundations/construction, not anywhere has Richard Wright claimed that the stadium will be built over night, but it will be done before the next round of franchises.
But let's not let simple facts and published news articles get in the way of your rambling and conspiracy theories, eh?
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| Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"But let's not let simple facts and published news articles get in the way of your rambling and conspiracy theories, eh?'"
Or wishful thinking, for that matter...
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| Personally, I'm sick of all this fighting/arguing about whose stadium will be built first, where we both are with progress etc.
To me it is just the same as all the "rumours" going around about what players are coming/going.
With both situations I will believe what I see with my own eyes as and when it is OFFICIALLY announced, until then we are both in the same boat as far as I am concerned. We would both like a new stadium, we are both somewhere down the road towards getting one but how far we've got and how far is still to go is pure specualtion to all but a few people at either club.
Let's stop fighting over it and concentrate on supporting (hopefully) both our teams in the playoffs!
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| Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"Wrong, the land is there for a stadium, hotel, swimming baths and a NHS drop in centre - all attached to the ground (with exception of the hotel of course).
Well done, the diggers are still flattening the land because if you never noticed, it was a hill (and still has a fair bit to go), full planning permission will go in once it's flattened I should imagine.
Captain state the obvious
there's a lack of funds for one reason - the economy, which the local council have helped to bridge by giving both clubs land to secure loans against - funding gap...gone.
Richard Wright isn't making it out to be anything, the last statement he made on the clubs website said they're looking for architects and a lead engineer - the last step before full planning permission and foundations/construction, not anywhere has Richard Wright claimed that the stadium will be built over night, but it will be done before the next round of franchises.
But let's not let simple facts and published news articles get in the way of your rambling and conspiracy theories, eh?'"
That is what the land is proposed for yes. If no funding is forthcoming the land will eventually be used by some other business venture. Like it or not that's the reality of business.
You have had 2 years since outline planning permission has gone in. Now you admit that you have had funding problems despite many posters on here denying it over the last two years. In the view of recent events regarding the WR site what makes you think them problems are at an end? Do you really think this council land loan will be enough to build yourself a stadium alone? It seems at the moment that is your only source of collateral you have to build your ground.
What RW has talked about recently he was talking about 2 years ago! He publicly stated in 2006 that completion date would be October 2008.
All is not what it seems to me!
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"It seems to me Folly that you will say anything bar your prayers. First of all I would like to thank you for involving me in your argument. Do not confuse me with that idiot wakey fan who is determined to wind you up and I dont mean Mr Brown either. I would like you please to show on here where I have ever said anything detrimental about the proposed new ground for Cas if so I will apologise otherwise I would be grateful if you would refrain from spreading untrue rumours about me. I Wont hold my breath for an apology for I fear you are neither big enough or man enough to admit your wrong. As a matter of interest you might take up journalism you should do well I'm sure there is some backwater rag will employ you, when you grow up that is.'"
Chissitt: I will clarify what I meant for you. I wasn't meaning just in relation to this thread, I meant in general. I will apologise for bringing you into this specific argument about the stadium - yes, I am man enough thanks - but generally, you have been having an ongoing "forum war" with tigerman 1+1 for the past few weeks which is becoming tiresome.
Anyway, once again apologies for bringing you into this.
As for the journalism, well we'll see.
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| We can all keep saying our house is bigger than your house etc.... but the reality is that we both have from now until mar/apr 2011 when applications for the next batch of franchises are to be sent in to produce the goods......
The RFL have stated clearly that they will not accept if, whens and maybe's this time so both clubs need to have bricks laid or we both face the threat from clubs in the championship taking our spot........
Both camps can point to progress but lets be brutally honest here we both still have a long way to go and time is running out and running out fast......
So lets look at this as clearly as we can.... if both clubs continue to go down the DIY track the likelyhood is that neither club or at the very least one of the clubs will not get their respective stadia....i would not speculate which as I have no idea except to say i do believe neither club will manage to make it before the deadline.... this leads to the discussion of a shared stadia which I personally see as the fastest and most secure way to ensure both clubs survival in SL
The council would be behind it and jointly I think the two clubs could raise enough finance to get a stadium built in time..... the point however is simply this...could the two clubs put aside their differences in the next few months and get this thing really moving or will they both continue to believe that shangrila can be achieved singularly and end up in the wilderness for years and years, wakey fans will remember those years and would feel very agrieved to lose all the good work done whilst they have been in SL simply because they could not share a patch of grass on alternate weekends and similarly for me as a Cas fan I hated NL1 and would never want to experience those feelings of what happens to us if we dont win the GF and get promoted
The truth is I support Cas Tigers and if they play their games at Cas Panthers, Westgate, Barnsley or Edinburgh I would be there because I support my team so if I could guarantee that Cas would stay in Sl by playing in a stadium that my local neighbours played in every alternative week then who cares ....
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| Quote The truth is I support Cas Tigers and if they play their games at Cas Panthers, Westgate, Barnsley or Edinburgh I would be there because I support my team so if I could guarantee that Cas would stay in Sl by playing in a stadium that my local neighbours played in every alternative week then who cares ....
You were doing ok until then
I think thats a bit far to go
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| The truth is I support Cas Tigers and if they play their games at Cas Panthers, Westgate, Barnsley or Edinburgh I would be there because I support my team so if I could guarantee that Cas would stay in Sl by playing in a stadium that my local neighbours played in every alternative week then who cares ....
You were doing ok until then I think thats a bit far to go
But very well put
I do a lot of work up in Scotland most weeks so it would benefit me if we did play in Edinburgh..... 
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| Quote Fully="Fully"Chissitt: I will clarify what I meant for you. I wasn't meaning just in relation to this thread, I meant in general. I will apologise for bringing you into this specific argument about the stadium - yes, I am man enough thanks - but generally, you have been having an ongoing "forum war" with tigerman 1+1 for the past few weeks which is becoming tiresome.
Anyway, once again apologies for bringing you into this.'"
If you think this ongoing forum war with tigerman11 is tiresome for you then please spare a thought for me having to defend myself from the bile and vitriol what spews from his mouth everytime I make a post. Paranoid is right I should be man enough to ignore it difficult as it may be. Btw thanks for the reply it is appreciated.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"If you think this ongoing forum war with tigerman11 is tiresome for you then please spare a thought for me having to defend myself from the bile and vitriol what spews from his mouth everytime I make a post. Paranoid is right I should be man enough to ignore it difficult as it may be. Btw thanks for the reply it is appreciated.'"
Then it should be easy enough to overlook the tripe that is posted and instead to the responses from the sensible Cas fans.
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