Whether he's the king of spin or not is no concern of Wakey's. Like I suspect anybody in his position, he'll do anything to make sure his business succeeds. Tbh he wasnt saying anything we didn't already know whether you like it or not.

This was nothing to do with spin - it was an ill-considered attempt to throw a spanner in the NM works.

It's an argument that's been done to death however and we'll never agree, so let's leave it there.

Really getting fed up of Wakey trolls coming on here spouting their bile. I there so little going on in Wakey.

They're absolutely obsessed.

Sorry to all his faithful, however I've met enough people in life like RW to know a BS'r when I see one. If we were to write down the statements that he has given over the past few years which had failed to materialize we could have a right good couple of hours worth of disbelief & laughter. But for how much longer do we keep ignoring the incompetence of the man and justifying it with our blind loyalty to the team we love? Be patient, trust, just wait a while........words I hear spouted on here all too often. After being patient, trusting and waiting time after time, and continuing to blindly do the same over and over again, we become fools!

If he was a boss at any one of the companies at which the forum members work, he would be the laughing stock of the business. A man who's is either so unlucky that he's a liability....or someone who clearly can't deliver! Either way, by now, based on the promises made and results he's failed to deliver, he would be out of a job! As simple as!! That is the harsh world of real life and business!! Yet some continue to wrap him in cotton wool, trust, and be patient over and over again!

We need change,....otherwise if we continue to do what we've always done, we will continue get what we've always gotten! - Disappointment!!!

Good ....

and by the way the spanner was already there

That's no way to talk about your great leader.

Going back to the original question before everyone started bitching with each other again, when the last round of licences were given out the RFL made it quite clear that if clubs did not make significant improvements quickly then there may be licences being revoked before the end of the three year period.

This was obviously directed at both Cas and Wakefield. So lets make it clear that if Tesco's decide they dont want a supermarket built on chemical infested land within the flood plain or Wakefield's public enquiry goes very badly wrong then one or maybe both clubs are going to be up the preverbial sh*t creek without a paddle. End of arguement.

You are assuming that Castleford was one of the two worst clubs: we weren't.

Yes we were...even Salford have a new stadium now, what have we got?

A better academy, finished in the play-offs, bigger fanbase. Need I go on.

Yes mate, because (as we have discussed ad nausea) none of that will save us when SL chooses to apply it's big blunt instrument of stadia criteria - specially contrived to ensure inclusion of favoured clubs and maximise the potential for eventually excluding everyone else.