Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:39 pm  

Ponterflfan wrote:

Firstly, I don't live in Chequerfield and I would have thought that the inhabitants of Airedale and Fryston would look much further than the local Aldi or Lidl.

Eh?

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:44 pm  

Ponterflfan wrote:

Firstly, I don't live in Chequerfield and I would have thought that the inhabitants of Airedale and Fryston would look much further than the local Aldi or Lidl.

So they will drive into Cas to Aldi or Normy to Lidl But not down Fryston rd onto WR for Tesco ?? Odd little world you live in ??

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:45 pm  

smoking monkey wrote:

Yesterdays Pont and Cas Express carried another article about the negative impact an 'out of town' retail development on WR would have on the town centre shops.
It seems to me the definition of 'out of town' must be dependant upon the size of town (and/or it's resident's spacial awareness/mobility) because everyday thousands of people walk a hell of a lot further around Leeds than the distance between say Cas library and the ground. Also the number of people who park at/around the ground on matchdays as opposed to walking from the town centre or further afield must be a very small minority.
I accept that the route along WR may not be sufficiently attractive to encourage a stroll up/down it but for the most part it is a waterfront so not beyond major improvement. Furthermore, looking at a significant number of locals Opus may wish to support their PP bid by arguing the health benefits of the exercise involved in getting to the store(s).
Seriously though I am less concerned that WR will lose out to another site (the traffic implications elsewhere could be even greater) than that the development just won't happen at all because of commercial opposition.

That article is so flawed. The town is already dead so it will have zero impact on people visiting Castleford for Castleford town centre. Instead, it is likely to drive more people into the town from the likes of Kippax, Lock Lane, Fairburn etc.

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:09 pm  

The developers of the Aire Street site which has OPP have just put in an application to extend their permission - it was due to expire in Feb? 2012.

Make of that what you ( or Bren or Sandal ) will.

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:41 am  

I'd say that's your "acid test" of WMDC intentions.
If they extend the OPP of the Aire St site then IMO that makes a bold statement of their preference.

If OPP has been granted previously it would be hard to see why it wouldn't be renewed.

Alf/Fully: Do you know which developer is behind Aire St? To the best of your knowledge are Opus behind any of the other sites? Just wondered in relation to land banks they may have in/around Castleford.

These could be a testing few months & I wish you all the best, just as I hope you'll offer a similar gesture when we're going into battle in December.

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:20 pm  

G.Price Fan Club wrote:

If OPP has been granted previously it would be hard to see why it wouldn't be renewed.

Alf/Fully: Do you know which developer is behind Aire St? To the best of your knowledge are Opus behind any of the other sites? Just wondered in relation to land banks they may have in/around Castleford.

These could be a testing few months & I wish you all the best, just as I hope you'll offer a similar gesture when we're going into battle in December.

The OPP will be renewed for Aire Street no doubt.

The developer of Aire Street is the same developer of Carlton lanes who also have permission to extend Carlton Lanes to cover most of the car park.

That may be why the manager of Carlton Lanes was predicting the death of the town centre in the "Cas and Pont" this week if WR was given the go ahead.

No self interest there like.

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:48 pm  

See that wasn't so hard was it?
Rational question followed by a rational response! Could this be the start of a civil conversation??

As far as self serving interests go, that's usually the case.
We'll just have to hope that this will be seen in the planning process for what it is. Put it this way, if it ever did go to a PI objections coming from someone like that would be hung out to dry during cross sectioning.

All will come good in the end I have no doubt, I just think the timescales are a potential problem- far from impossible though.

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:42 pm  

G.Price Fan Club wrote:

See that wasn't so hard was it?
Rational question followed by a rational response! Could this be the start of a civil conversation??

Rational and Civil - That's me !

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:53 pm  

G.Price Fan Club wrote:

I'd say that's your "acid test" of WMDC intentions.
If they extend the OPP of the Aire St site then IMO that makes a bold statement of their preference.

No it doesn't. It just means it complies with National Planning Laws and they've paid the necessary fee to retain Planning.

I could have planning permission for an extra large shed in my background and keep renewing it every three years; it doesn't mean the Council want it there!

Re: Quetions regarding our new stadium ? : Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:23 pm  

The Aire Street site was applied for in 2006 and it took until 2009 to sign a 106 agreement for the approval.

This has now been applied for renewal without any changes to the "Grand" scheme.

The bridge Street site was approved in 2006 and was renewed in 2010 minus the Hotel part of the development.

There is obviously an interest from some company or companies to locate a "Supermarket" at this side of the town.

The location (Aire Street or WR) may come down to the need for such a development (Which everyone seems to agree there is) and which location is best in terms of planning, the cost and speed of delivery to the mystery retailer.

If I was the retailer I know which site I would be pushing for.

IMHO!