Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:09 pm  

So are songs of "die die Lindsey (Maurice) acceptable, if "die die cooke" isn't?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:14 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

Dear Mr Solly
I am writing to complain about the abusive and expletive-littered chanting directed towards Hull FC player Paul Cooke during the above game.
Early in the game, Hull FC supporters could be clearly heard chanting; "Die, die, Cookie [Paul Cooke] f***ing die". This is in clear contradiction of the RFL's Respect policy which states that:
"RFL Respect Policy :Note - Clubs are responsible for the conduct of their players, parents/carers of players, coaches, officials,volunteers and spectators.
1 No person/s attending a match shall:
a. Use offensive or obscene language to any player, coach, referee, touch judge, official or other spectator;"

As the Complaince Manager with the RFL, I would urge you to investigate these abusive and offensive chants. I am beginning to re-consider attending further Super League games as I do not wish my young daughter to hear such offensive chanting. Likewise, I no longer feel confident watching Sky coverage of the Super League as, having watched a repeat of this game, the chanting is clearly audible on television.
Yours sincerely,

Time to see if the RFL will follow the precedent they have set.

I think if you are going to send a letter you should at least give the correct information

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:08 am  

Matt King's Barber wrote:

Study politics and economics and then feel free to debate Thatcher's impact on this country with me.

Based on your contribution to this thread so far i would be suprised if you had mastered the 2 times table.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:09 am  

MrPhilb wrote:

To Wakefield for not stemming the chanting??

an interesting point this, which has been alluded to before

It would seem from the wording of the cas fines that the home club is responsible for the behaviour and chanting of the crowd but that becomes more difficult if it is the away fans who are causing problems

you could end up with a situation hypothetically where next Wakefield could organise a few rent-a-thugs, ply them with beer and get them to behave in an unacceptable manner and cost cas £20k in suspended fines and damage their franchise bid

is this fair? who is ultimately responsible for the behaviour of away fans?

or even better, dress them in cas shirts and plant them in the crowd, would struggle to identify them then

[tb]

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:17 am  

coco the fullback wrote:

an interesting point this, which has been alluded to before

It would seem from the wording of the cas fines that the home club is responsible for the behaviour and chanting of the crowd but that becomes more difficult if it is the away fans who are causing problems

Why?

[tb]

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:19 am  

Matt King's Barber wrote:

Study politics and economics and then feel free to debate Thatcher's impact on this country with me.

Honours degree magna cum laude do you? Not that I'm into an academic dick-comparing competition – arguments from authority only work if there's an actual authority. And you aren't.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:32 am  

tb wrote:

Why?

why what?

why would they do this?

I did say hypothetically and I think the RFL have started down a path which they need to follow up to eliminate all abusive chanting but,...

it was suggested, and probably correctly, that wakefield should be punished for not stemming the abusive chanting of a group of Hull fans.

the final franchise place is broadly accepted as a run off between wakefield and cas or some forced merger

in some people's view damaging cas's franchise bid would in some way enhance wakefields

[tb]

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:43 am  

coco the fullback wrote:

why what?

Why is carrying out your responsibility to steward and police your ground more difficult when it comes to away fans?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:07 am  

tb wrote:

Why is carrying out your responsibility to steward and police your ground more difficult when it comes to away fans?

Oh Ok
yes that is their responsibilty but identifying them and taking action could prove more difficult.

Cas have done well in identifying 3 fans after the event but if they were away fans or new fans how would they do this?

For away fans it would probably require immediate physical intervention and eviction from the ground and I'm not convinced the stewards we get at RL are capable or trained enough to do this. Maybe the point is they should be and need to be.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:58 am  

Weren't there also chants regarding Terry Newton as well in that similar vein of Die, Die ?