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Re: Challenge Cup : Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:25 pm  
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This is why rugby league needs to forget this 2 x 12, 3 x 8 plan - it isn't going to work.

They need to work with their broadcasters - Premier Sports and Sky (and French TV BeIn Sport) - along with sponsors, get them all in a room and say we want two fully professional leagues of 12.

And have a two up, two down system going. Two relegation places at the bottom adds more drama. Salary cap of £1.65m in top division and salary cap of £1m for second division.

That's £31m a season between sponsors and TV deals.

Top 5 play-offs 4 v 5 week one, winners through, losers eliminated. Week 2 1 v winners of week one and 2 v 3. Winners of 1st v Week one though to GF, losers play in final elimination play-off. Winners of 2 v 3 through to Final Elim play-off, losers eliminated.

Season is 22 games along, Challenge Cup 5 Rounds, leaving 6 weekends spare where other SL Fixtures would be and the Exiles fixture is.

I'd introduce another Cup competition to give clubs more to play for like the NR Cup but across both leagues with two finals played on same day.

I'd have

3 leagues of 5 randomly drawn comprising top 12 of Tier 1 and top 3 of SL2 (after a certain period of the season meaning there's an incentive). Each team plays 2 home games and 2 away games (to make it fair).

Top 1 of each league goes through (3 teams) and the highest 2nd place finish (decided by points, then PD, then Tries scored).

Then randomly drawn knock-out for the semi-finals and final.

Meanwhile, with Coventry coming in next season, that'll mean that the third tier will have 14 teams and there will be remaining 9 teams who didn't get into the above competition. They'll play for what is the NR Cup (but their own cup final renamed the "League Bowl"

Initially, this will begin on same weekend with just bottom 14 teams in tier 3 - straight knock-out of 7 ties.

Winning 7 will join 9 teams from division above, where it will be 4 leagues of 4. Top one of each league qualifies. Two home fixtures and two away fixtures, comprising playing each team in same league once and one team from the next league home or away (depending on draw). Then semis and final. Final is played as predecessor to the "League Cup"

This gives SL1 teams a minimum of 11 Home League games, 2 Cup League Games and any additional CC game revenue (same as now).

SL2 Top 3 - Ditto.

SL2 Bottom 9 - 11 Home League Games

SL3 - All 14 - 13 League Home Games, 7 winning teams 2 extra home league games plus Cup revenues from home ties.

Losing 7 get 13 league home games plus any additional cup revenue.

This system means that in general there's an equality across all leagues and there's an incentive in terms of extra game revenues in each division for the second cup.


How would this be funded ??? Would be a good system but nowhere near enough money in the sport to do that IMO
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Re: Challenge Cup : Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:30 pm  
As I put near the top, they need to get sponsors and all TV companies in one room.

The two leagues can be funded by TV deals from Sky Sports, Premier Sports and BeIn Sports.

Challenge Cup BBC

League Cup - Sky/BBC
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Re: Challenge Cup : Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:37 pm  
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As I put near the top, they need to get sponsors and all TV companies in one room.

The two leagues can be funded by TV deals from Sky Sports, Premier Sports and BeIn Sports.

Challenge Cup BBC

League Cup - Sky/BBC


Would tv companies pay more than they do now ??? (Dont premier sports pay nothing for the NLs). what reason would they have to ??? The SC 300k in the championship so for a Sc of £1m to be brought in that would mean each club has to find £700k extra per season just on wages, I just can't see the sport finding that.
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Re: Challenge Cup : Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:57 pm  
It's the only way the sport in this country is going to progress.

And Sky need to see that the more they invest in the sport the better it is going to become. They'll want to attract more viewers and the only way they'll do that is by getting the best players over here.

If clubs can all spend the salary cap it'll improve the quality of the game.
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Re: Challenge Cup : Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:11 pm  
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It's the only way the sport in this country is going to progress.

And Sky need to see that the more they invest in the sport the better it is going to become. They'll want to attract more viewers and the only way they'll do that is by getting the best players over here.

If clubs can all spend the salary cap it'll improve the quality of the game.


Agree with you but can't see them investing that much more any time soon.
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Re: Challenge Cup : Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:20 pm  
well there's the chicken and egg situation for you.

If we don't get crowds we can't spend money. If we can't spend money we can't compete. If we can't compete we won't get crowds........
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