It a leader/captain on the pitch we are missing. Penky is a not captain he is a good player, however he doesnt have captain material and i was very surprised when he was appointed captain. I do think that when larder is on the pitch he is the one who is the leader, and when he isnt on we do miss him. it was very noticable last friday that the person who was getting the most frustrated was our captain, which indirectly affected his performance and he was completely inaffective. We need someone to bark the orders at the players, i can always remember Karl Harrison at Thrum Hall when we had just let in a try, he didnt half rip into them.