Re: Grix - Time to go : Tue Jul 04, 2023 11:59 am  

We should try to bring Muzza into the equation (and I don't mean as a player).

Re: Grix - Time to go : Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:29 pm  

Lets be clear
- the poor squad is partly due to a lack of basic player recruitment skills at BOD level
- the poor squad is partly due to the recruitment not matching the preferred playing style of the coach. Perhaps suitable players were not available, perhaps we couldn't afford them or perhaps our recruitment was poor. I suspect a combination of all three.

When I saw the squad at the start of the season I said Grix would loose his job before season end. I had underestimated the financial hole the new BOD would find themselves in. I believe they simply can't afford to pay up his contract. Recent recruitment by other Championship clubs indicated players have been available at a price, so as ever its our very limited finances that are driving the players available on the field.

This years BOD have indicated that they inherited a financial problem, was this true? Did Turner and the previous BOD leave us in a mess or have the present BOD buggered up like so many before them? The BOD had ambitious plans, are they all now dead? Be nice to hear what is really going on especially with the rumours of them trying to finance a ground purchase...which would be a splendid move if achievable.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:00 am  

Dbvada wrote:

Be nice to hear what is really going on especially with the rumours of them trying to finance a ground purchase...which would be a splendid move if achievable.

As I touched upon in an earlier post, the Shay has never worked for Fax so a ground change would indeed be splendid.

The Shay is a tidy stadium, but maybe being in the town centre doesn't help with limited street parking which may put folk off. Taking Headingley as an outskirts stadium example, I always found it easy to park even with 5 figure crowds. Of course it will be a massive challenge, but I can only see a bright future with a compact RL stadium on the skirts we can call our own.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:11 am  

Who’s paying for it?
Where would it be located?
Would the council give planning permission for it to happen and have one of their members income streams disappear from the Shay? No they wouldn’t.
Looking back it would have been better updating thrum Hall

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:16 am  

We need the Shay and it's size if we ever meet the IMG suckup criteria.Moving is pie in the sky and unrealistic,far more pressing problems at present with the presentation on the field.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:27 am  

Faxlore wrote:

Who’s paying for it?

Maybe similar to what Wakey are doing with a mortgage from the Council. I'm not sure how much rent Fax are paying, I think it was £40k pa a few seasons ago, which of course is just dead money.

Faxlore wrote:

Would the council give planning permission for it to happen and have one of their members income streams disappear from the Shay? No they wouldn’t.

We're talking about the council here (another reason to get away). I'm sure they would love to get rid of this white elephant, and sell it for housing development making a tidy sum as well as generating even bigger income streams from the resulting additional council tax. Where would Halifax Town end up? Who knows, probably end up on some local park.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:40 am  

Tony Fax wrote:

Maybe similar to what Wakey are doing with a mortgage from the Council. I'm not sure how much rent Fax are paying, I think it was £40k pa a few seasons ago, which of course is just dead money.

We're talking about the council here (another reason to get away). I'm sure they would love to get rid of this white elephant, and sell it for housing development making a tidy sum as well as generating even bigger income streams from the resulting additional council tax. Where would Halifax Town end up? Who knows, probably end up on some local park.

The two clubs should worth together for the benefit of each other,but attitudes like that and from the football forum prevent this.I love the Shay and would hate to be housed in a resticted subbuteo stadium-5 miles out of Town,like last Sunday...

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Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:48 am  

Beaujangles wrote:

The two clubs should worth together for the benefit of each other,but attitudes like that and from the football forum prevent this.I love the Shay and would hate to be housed in a resticted subbuteo stadium-5 miles out of Town,like last Sunday...

It's a sad state of affairs when the clubs in a town don't have mutual respect among their fans. But can you name a single town where there isn't some perverse jealousy / dislike? Bradford are sneery, Wigan are, Hull are, Fax are. The one and only shining light is Leeds where people in the city are proud of their clubs no matter what.

Leeds has an elevated opinion of itself, but in this regard the rest of us are light years behind.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:52 am  

Hold on! Who's turning this into a RL v Soccer slanging match? Certainly not me. My reference to Town ending up in a local park was nothing to do with me WANTING them to end up in a local park, just that knowing the council they'd cash in on the Shay and let the soccer lot fend for themselves.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:09 am  

Beaujangles wrote:

The two clubs should worth together for the benefit of each other,but attitudes like that and from the football forum prevent this.I love the Shay and would hate to be housed in a resticted subbuteo stadium-5 miles out of Town,like last Sunday...

I agree, and I believe the biggest stumbling block for the two clubs working together in recent times has been the FCHT owner. Regardless, I dont think the 'dislike' between the two clubs supporters is as big as some make out. Yes, there are some on both sides who really have a problem with the other club, but I think most accept that we have to live together and want to see both teams flourish and prosper.

As for Tony Fax's comment about the rent. £40k is peanuts when you consider what it covers. The ground staff, stadium management, maintenance of the facilities, utilities, etc. Obviously both clubs are restricted on the matchday income (through the bars, food stalls, etc), but I dont think the deal is particularly bad.

What I would like to see is the Council have a bit more ambition; invest in the stadium to make it more self sustainable and potentially get to a stage where the two clubs either pay less rent or have greater opportunities of increasing their income. The south annexe could/should have been better utilised by now instead of being left to rust. Is all the office space in the East Stand being fully utilisied?