Re: Resignations : Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:41 pm  

Makes saturday’s performance even more staggering if there’s unrest in the background.

I only hope the next custodians of our great club are in it for the right reasons and guide it successfully onwards and upwards and not just in a winkle measuring competition! (And they put a few quid in!!)

Up the fax

Re: Resignations : Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:42 pm  

faxcar wrote:

I’m surprised you didn’t DR Hudds

I mean you’ve managed it every other thread, still recovering my old buddy?

Must have been some party

Just winding down now lol! The Corner, shuddersfield. Mallinsons Seaside Arms 4.2% Mmm! P.S. Only Fax could be in turmoil after such a great occasion as we witnessed at the weekend! Up The Fax!

Re: Resignations : Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:57 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

Times change. If filed electronically, they're available in minutes.

The last couple of times I've done it, it shows a new document has been submitted but it's not been available straight away. I assume whilst someone checks it.

Re: Resignations : Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:14 am  

I was a little maligned about the comments recently of our less than media shy board and I actually prefer a style of management which is more closed door but perhaps if they failed to recognise the efforts of the players on Saturday then, it might signal a real lack of understanding when it comes to being PR savvy. As long as we don't go down the route of a benevolent dictator like Beaumont at Leigh or Campbell at Fev - Beware false prophets.

Re: Resignations : Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:47 am  

All quiet from Fax again just like when RM left - will be different in 6-8 weeks or so when they want people to buy season tickets for 2020 - then they will engage very well with the fans.....

Re: Resignations : Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:53 am  

Official statement now released: https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article/5 ... l-haggerty

Official statement now released: https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article/5 ... l-haggerty

Re: Resignations : Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:51 am  

A long post...sorry!

Despite the press statement the old directors were sacked and this is just window dressing, they tried and failed.....like so so many directors before them and for putting themselves into the job they should be thanked.

My views on the new board...who don’t come with lots of cash or bold plans...yet

Turner was a director for a short period some 15 years ago under Pearson, he was personally responsible for negotiating with the revenue back then to get us out of a potential closure. Ever since he has been a steadfast supporter and huge sponsor, he runs a successful local business and drives for Blood Bikes. He is also a big shareholder as he had lots and was given Mrs Pearson’s & Posner’s shares when they moved away (in itself an endorsement). All in all he looks like the perfect man to get back on the BOD.....if he has time to do the job properly.

Bray, is a staunch fan and modest sponsor. He has never been involved in running a rugby club but runs a success local business so will know how to balance the books. He owns no shares and doesn’t come with deep pockets I think he fits in to the category of many of our ex directors that his heart will be 100% in the right place but time will tell if he can add real value.

Grayson is continuing and I think his links and work in the community make him a real asset to the way the club operates, although I don’t see him as the type to add financial muscle or business kudos to the BOD. We need people like this at Board level.

At present this means that Croad is still not on the Board but having a big influence....is he really in charge but behind the scenes? Steele is still the biggest shareholder, but frankly was not very good at running the club and the reason he has most shares is he put in lots of cash to cover up his boards failure to sort out the accounts.

I’d be interested what others think

Re: Resignations : Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:13 am  

Dbvada wrote:

A long post...sorry!

Despite the press statement the old directors were sacked and this is just window dressing, they tried and failed.....like so so many directors before them and for putting themselves into the job they should be thanked.

My views on the new board...who don’t come with lots of cash or bold plans...yet

Turner was a director for a short period some 15 years ago under Pearson, he was personally responsible for negotiating with the revenue back then to get us out of a potential closure. Ever since he has been a steadfast supporter and huge sponsor, he runs a successful local business and drives for Blood Bikes. He is also a big shareholder as he had lots and was given Mrs Pearson’s & Posner’s shares when they moved away (in itself an endorsement). All in all he looks like the perfect man to get back on the BOD.....if he has time to do the job properly.

Bray, is a staunch fan and modest sponsor. He has never been involved in running a rugby club but runs a success local business so will know how to balance the books. He owns no shares and doesn’t come with deep pockets I think he fits in to the category of many of our ex directors that his heart will be 100% in the right place but time will tell if he can add real value.

Grayson is continuing and I think his links and work in the community make him a real asset to the way the club operates, although I don’t see him as the type to add financial muscle or business kudos to the BOD. We need people like this at Board level.

At present this means that Croad is still not on the Board but having a big influence....is he really in charge but behind the scenes? Steele is still the biggest shareholder, but frankly was not very good at running the club and the reason he has most shares is he put in lots of cash to cover up his boards failure to sort out the accounts.

I’d be interested what others think

Sounds like out of the chip pan into the fire....

What happened to the cashed up consortium...?

Re: Resignations : Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:34 am  

A pretty fair assessment i would say . Steele has effectively in the past bailed out the club from his own very weak but well meaning governance .i cant help but think thete are better skilled candidates in thw wings and with far more financial clout. We never seem to go through a due diligence process just a knee jerk one hence Christian lister who in my eyes was just plain poor from the start Haggerty put the time and effort in so earns respect . You have to say for it all to blow up on semi final day takes some level of sheer incompetence as a collective management group . Glad to see lawrence in. I actually think he would make a good chairman for the future .never been short of intelect and he has mellowed nicely with age. You have to question if Mr Bray has the right skill set but I will reserve judgement and give him a chance .

Re: Resignations : Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:38 pm  

Its a bit of a messy one given that the shares are split between 10 different people - nobody will ever appear or feel to have control. A bit like when the current owners of FCHT tried to take over HTAFC, there must have been 100+ people who were 'shareholders' meaning gaining enough control became impossible.

You always have to question the intentions of someone who becomes a director of a sporting club such as HRLFC or FCHT. Even more so in FCHT case where the current owners of the club had no previous affiliation to Halifax Town. There are no major rewards i.e. an annual dividend, and neither club has any major asset with the stadium owned by the council - this is good in that it puts off potential asset strippers.

I believe it then comes down to 3 categories to what drives someone who wants to become a director; 1) ego, 2) love the sport and want a go at running a club (which is related to 1) ) or 3) they are already a supporter of the club. The latter category isnt necessarily good as it doesnt mean the person is capable of the leadership required and also peoples motives can change over time. For some reason people with a perfectly sound business brain can go on to be totally incompetent when it comes to running a professional sporting club.

As an outsider, I have always thought directorships at Fax have been dished out as 'jobs for the boys'. I think there have been 16 directors in 12 years. There has been no real stability which possibly reflects on the clubs development. Something new might be planned and implemented but it soon dies a death when someone else comes in for example.