What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:11 pm  

Will Cameron go crawling back to join the party or will we leave the EU for good?

In either case we are entering interesting and possibly turbulent times.

Has Cameron shown his inexperience and cocked-up Britain's future completely?

Has he called it right and done the opposite?

Does he have a Plan B like jooning the US / Canada economic bloc?

Has he played a blinder in terms of short-term UK politics? Could he lose Lib-Dem support, call a snap election and get a big Tory majority on the back of his actiion / inaction?

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:26 pm  

Only time will tell, but 1 thing is for sure, the working man will be even more worse off.

What was he voting for? Does anyone know? and who actually cares?

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:33 pm  

Live Wired wrote:

Only time will tell, but 1 thing is for sure, the working man will be even more worse off.

What was he voting for? Does anyone know? and who actually cares?

They wanted to tax every interbank transaction in Europe.
Dave quite rightly said 'Hang on 10% of our GDP is in the finanical sector and if you do that they will all bugger off to the US or Asia so here have my veto'
The Other Europeans Hungary aside said 'Well we all agree so we will do it without you'.

TBH Cameron had little choice as numerous governments have drove us to relay on the financial sector far to much and if he went along with it we would have been royally screwed.

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:37 pm  

Christ, this is a first.... Cameron getting something right.


Bet he can't manage two on the bounce.

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:44 pm  

He's finally shown he has some balls at least. Only time will tell what the effect will be.

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:44 pm  

So the European governments wanted to tax the banks, but Britain did not?

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:48 pm  

Live Wired wrote:

So the European governments wanted to tax the banks, but Britain did not?

Somewhat yes.
But from what I can gather it would have been used to prop up the Euro.

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:52 pm  

Well personally, I don't see a problem with that. Tax and death the only certainties.

Does that mean the banks/ big business run the country, and not the politicians? If so, what is the point of voting? ( i don't btw)

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:52 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Somewhat yes.
But from what I can gather it would have been used to prop up the Euro.

Effectively taking money out of British banks and giving it to EU banks.

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:56 pm  

Live Wired wrote:

Well personally, I don't see a problem with that. Tax and death the only certainties.

Does that mean the banks/ big business run the country, and not the politicians? If so, what is the point of voting? ( i don't btw)

If the money was to be returned to the taxpayers (US) I would say yes to a small tax but we are talking about taxing the banks to bail out an ill concived currency that we are not even part of (And wasn't that a good call!!).
A currency that didnt even do due dilligence on all of its members (How Greece got in I will never know something they have now found out to their cost), Why should we risk 10% of our GDP on that?