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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:14 am  
Labour are committed to Trident but their leader will never press the button!!

So what is the point of having a perceived deterrent if it will never be used even if somebody uses on us - its bonkers.

Labour are committed to unilateral dis-armourment but Donald is thinking I'm with you Jeremy and you can Putin going that's a great idea!!

This is a party full of unrealistic idealists with a leader that doesn't actually agree with half the policies!!
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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:21 am  
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Labour are committed to Trident but their leader will never press the button!!


I'm not sure this is the issue that BBC journo's would like you to believe; he refuses to be drawn on stupid hypothetical questions about nuclear war, which they insist on asking him as it exposes a perceived weakness - but I think most people take comfort from a politician who is opposed to nuclear weapons, and won't glibly agree that he'll press a button to incinerate millions of people just because Andrew Marr asks him.

Interesting week for Labour - Corbyn appears to have thrown off the shackles and has been a confident and relaxed performer in the media; whilst Theresa May hides from them, refuses TV debates, and arranges closed events.

Maybe the GE will not be the unopposed landslide that some are predicting?
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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:48 pm  
Maybe the GE will not be the unopposed landslide that some are predicting?


Give over for God sake. He is a buffoon who has no credible policies, plans or anything of value to add. Did you see the first Labour press conference after the GE announcement? It was embarrassingly shambolic. The lady who was leading on it was comical to say the least.

One of the Labour MP's on the box this weekend said he wouldn't be inviting Jezza to his constituency, wouldn't endorse him but would fight on for Labour and try and hang on to his seat. What an absolute mess.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:55 pm  
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Give over for God sake. He is a buffoon who has no credible policies, plans or anything of value to add. Did you see the first Labour press conference after the GE announcement? It was embarrassingly shambolic. The lady who was leading on it was comical to say the least.

One of the Labour MP's on the box this weekend said he wouldn't be inviting Jezza to his constituency, wouldn't endorse him but would fight on for Labour and try and hang on to his seat. What an absolute mess.


Nonetheless - who predicted Brexit, or Trump?

There appears to be a move towards protest, anti-establishment voting recently, and if Corbyn and his advisors keep scoring goals at May's expense as she hides from the media, you just never know.

I guess the Murdoch/Tory media will go into overdrive in the coming weeks - but stranger things have, very recently, happened!
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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:42 pm  
TM doesn't need to come out and risk tripping herself up. As you have suggested the press will back her and she will roll out the big hitters who surround her where there is a goal to be had like she did today with Fallon on the Defence issue that Labour messed up on this weekend.
There is no chance of a Trump/Brexit result with this one. TM is seen as a steady pair of hands who can represent Britain during Brexit and on that alone she will win handsomely. She will get the UKIP support back plus in some cases Labour supporters. She isn't seen as a Eton Conservative more someone with a decent moral compass.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:09 pm  
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She isn't seen as a Eton Conservative more someone with a decent moral compass.


We appear to have diverted from a conversation about the political landscape - to your personal beliefs about Mrs May; which I don't share, and neither do lots of other people.

She's proven herself to be as dishonest and opportunist as most people trying to gather power - not least by breaking the Fixed Term Parliament Act in calling a snap election, and there's quite a movement against her on that basis; even some of her loyal press have broken ranks since the latest manifesto pledge they've pledged to undo, is raising taxes.

I can see lots of the criticism of Corbyn - he's idealistic and significantly less media savvy than most modern politicians; but he doesn't strike me as dishonest, and at a time when swathes of the public are anti-politics, that could strike a chord.

I may be entirely wrong, but I may not be; we do, after all, live in interesting times.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:04 pm  
Yesterday is let's hand the power back to unions - scary stuff.

Then its more bank holidays - seriously

Then its unilateralism - honestly

Its joke stuff that's simply not credible
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Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:53 pm  
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Then its more bank holidays - seriously


We currently have the lowest number of public holidays in the G20 - lower even than Japan, and they don't seem to have a problem with productivity. And a Government report has estimated that a BH injects around a billion quid into the economy - so not as potty as you would like to think.

I think you may be falling for the outrage that the Daily Mail want you to feel.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:27 am  
Its easy to look at an issue with one eye and not see the flip side. Japan might be entitled to more public holidays but work longer hours and don't have as many holidays as UK- but hey what does that matter, as Jezza says Japan gets 19 days a year PH

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... oliday-law
Its easy to look at an issue with one eye and not see the flip side. Japan might be entitled to more public holidays but work longer hours and don't have as many holidays as UK- but hey what does that matter, as Jezza says Japan gets 19 days a year PH

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Re: General Election 8th June : Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:35 am  
I may be entirely wrong, but I may not be; we do, after all, live in interesting times.


Sadly we don't as this is going to be an unprecedented landslide victory for TM who will have a free reign to rule how she wishes. Only a few don't see this. You being one, although I detect an undertone in your posts seeming to suggest you know what the outcome will be.
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