Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Once again not a single coherent point made.
No surprise

Coming from you, that is the funniest thing this year!

The last time you had a point, it was up your nose and had snot on the end.

[Durham Giant]

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Mon May 11, 2020 9:19 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You lefties really do want the state to control your lives - are you incapable of staying staff all by yourself - you should be embarrassed, I would be. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Maybe the slogan should be "Grow up and Grow some"

I do not feel that I have any difficulties sin knowing what I need to do.

My concerns are for those who do not have the same level,of control over their lives.

The security guards who are most at risk, the care home staff who have really limited PPE but still go to work, the NHS workers who go to work and put themselves at risk to help people like you, the insecurely employed who have no choice, the worker s who have to use public transport and put themselves at risk.


You Tories are so emotionally dead that you find it impossible to think about your fellow man. Maybe your slogan should be , “so what if you die. I want my quality of life”

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Mon May 11, 2020 9:26 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Everyone has been asking the Government to treat us as adults - as soon as they do everyone cries - you can't have it both ways?

Astonishing, isn't it.

"We demand a plan! We demand a phased plan!"

Government: "here you go."

"It's too confusing, I didn't actually know what I was asking for, I'm a feckin child, wipe my backside."

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Mon May 11, 2020 9:32 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

More importantly, where are people supposed to get a supply of masks from, which are now required for enclosed spaces ??
Masks will be harder to get hold of than toilet rolls and pasta were a few weeks ago and remebering that some idiots will be stock piling the bloody things, there could be serious consequances for some of the people / services that really need them.

The advice was for face coverings not masks.

Below is from strategy paper released today.

"Face-coverings
As more people return to work, there will be more movement outside people's immediate household. This increased mobility means the Government is now advising that people should aim to wear a face-covering in enclosed spaces where social distancing is not always possible and they come into contact with others that they do not normally meet, for example on public transport or in some shops. Homemade cloth face-coverings can help reduce the risk of transmission in some circumstances. Face-coverings are not intended to help the wearer, but to protect against inadvertent transmission of the disease to others if you have it asymptomatically.
A face covering is not the same as a facemask such as the surgical masks or respirators used as part of personal protective equipment by healthcare and other workers. These supplies must continue to be reserved for those who need it. Face-coverings should not be used by children under the age of two, or those who may find it difficult to manage them correctly, for example primary age children unassisted, or those with respiratory conditions. It is important to use face- coverings properly and wash your hands before putting them on and taking them off."

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Mon May 11, 2020 9:38 pm  

Sunday you have 12 hours to return to work but not be public transport. Monday no we meant Wednesday but still try to walk or cycle. Sunday anybody flying into U.K. other than from Eire must isolate for 14 days. Monday extended to suddenly include by ferry, tunnel with the exception of coming from France which is now exempt. Sunday it was construction and manufacturing but by Monday they added food production and science facilities. Sunday golf yes but in two’s only and then with an existing member from your household but by Monday it can be from another house but subject to social distancing. I could give more examples by you right wing are so knowledgeable that you knew what he meant on Sunday.
I like the belief that a company is going to say no don’t come to work because you can’t find child care.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Mon May 11, 2020 9:57 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I like the belief that a company is going to say no don’t come to work because you can’t find child care.

Astonishing from Johnson, that. As if that's really going to happen.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Mon May 11, 2020 11:34 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Coming from you, that is the funniest thing this year!

The last time you had a point, it was up your nose and had snot on the end.

If mine and your views on things are polar opposite that's absolutely fine by me.
I would love to know what was in that PM you sent me a couple of weeks ago that you deleted before I had the chance to read it.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Tue May 12, 2020 5:08 am  

Jukesays wrote:

If mine and your views on things are polar opposite that's absolutely fine by me.
I would love to know what was in that PM you sent me a couple of weeks ago that you deleted before I had the chance to read it.

so, you admit you disagree with people purely on the basis of the poster as opposed to the content, enough said.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Tue May 12, 2020 6:44 am  

IR80 wrote:

so, you admit you disagree with people purely on the basis of the poster as opposed to the content, enough said.

If that how you want to interpret that then that's ok with me however untrue it is.
I have on a number of occasions agreed with Sal on numerous issues.

I'm sure occasionally even yourself may come up with a fair point, but even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Tue May 12, 2020 6:51 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Sunday you have 12 hours to return to work but not be public transport. Monday no we meant Wednesday but still try to walk or cycle. Sunday anybody flying into U.K. other than from Eire must isolate for 14 days. Monday extended to suddenly include by ferry, tunnel with the exception of coming from France which is now exempt. Sunday it was construction and manufacturing but by Monday they added food production and science facilities. Sunday golf yes but in two’s only and then with an existing member from your household but by Monday it can be from another house but subject to social distancing. I could give more examples by you right wing are so knowledgeable that you knew what he meant on Sunday.
I like the belief that a company is going to say no don’t come to work because you can’t find child care.

Dont expect a reply
I've noticed any kind of criticism that contains logic,fact or any kind of reasoning behind it is ignored so the argument goes away or dismissed as fake news.

Watched the American program with John Oliver last night as I usually do (not a great episode btw) but it is alarming the parallels between the Republicans, Trump, Fox news etc and our conservative party and a pretty decent percentage of their following. Blind devotion comes to mind.
Tbf the Tories are a "Light" version containing maybe say 30/40% of their ideology etc. But the way they are going about things in general, and not just the coronavirus issues is straight of their playbook.