Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:57 am  

cod'ead wrote:

Statistically drink-drivers contribute to 20% of all road accidents,...

Except they don't. For many years now, road accident statistics have become increasingly meaningless, due to the fact that, for the overwhelming majority of road traffic collisions, you have as much chance of getting the police to attend as you have of getting Starbucks to pay corporation tax.

The statistics can only ever tell a story of those collisions of which details are recorded, and if 90%-plus of all collisions are not attended by the police then the 20% statistic is pretty meaningless.

If 100% of the non-recorded collisions were contributed to by alcohol, then the overall statistic would be over 90%. If none of them were, the statistic would be hardly over 2%. The actual truth could lie anywhere in between, and nobody actually has a clue.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:29 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Obviously I should have known nobody on here would agree considering the fact that nobody on here has ever drove with any alcohol in tbeir system, own a copied DVD/CD, downloaded a film, watched a TV program online or broke a single law.

Doesn't work like that though does it, I've done all of the above (although I'm not sure whats illegal about watching a tv program online ?) but still have enough of a brain to understand that those other things are illegal and that I shouldn't have done them and that if anyone else does then if they get caught they should be punished.

Hypocritical - its a way of life.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:19 pm  

Show me a man who claims not to be a hypocrite and I'll show you an hypocrite.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:23 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Show me a man who claims not to be a hypochrite and I'll show you an hypochrite.

I'll show you a hypocrite if you want?

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:27 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

I'll show you a hypocrite if you want?

Indeed, I was just changing it as you posted.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:28 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Indeed, I was just changing it as you posted.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:33 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

:LIAR:

Look at the time of editing, same time as your post.
My problem is, as well as being a hypocrite, I am a hypochondriac.
You can understand the confusion now can't you?

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:11 pm  

I did a bit of looking around on this subject expecting a lot of campaigns and this one really caught my eye: http://www.drink-driving-limit.co.uk Some of the facts and figures scare the living daylights out of me. Personally, I don't drink - but it still effects me. I worry about other drivers on the road.

I did a bit of looking around on this subject expecting a lot of campaigns and this one really caught my eye: http://www.drink-driving-limit.co.uk Some of the facts and figures scare the living daylights out of me. Personally, I don't drink - but it still effects me. I worry about other drivers on the road.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:04 pm  

Chris.Taylor wrote: http://www.drink-driving-limit.co.uk Some of the facts and figures scare the living daylights out of me. I guess that's what it's there to do. I'm not quite sure how to take the gender part of that page. It states that 2,500 women where arrested for being over the limit and that 43,000 gave negative results. Then tells us that 10,000 men where arrested but doesn't tell us how many where tested as negative? so that one may not be as clear cut as it should be. Of course I disagree with drink driving entirely and have never personally taken the risk. I don't drink anymore but when I did, There is no way I would have been safe to drive a car in some of the states I used to wake up in. You may not feel as smashed as you did the night before. But I was damn sure that I wasn't with it enough to be able to control a vehicle in a safe manner. If you know you are driving somewhere in the morning and still choose to get leathered the night before, knowing that you will be rough and still have alcohol in your system you deserve what's coming to you.

Chris.Taylor wrote: http://www.drink-driving-limit.co.uk Some of the facts and figures scare the living daylights out of me. I guess that's what it's there to do. I'm not quite sure how to take the gender part of that page. It states that 2,500 women where arrested for being over the limit and that 43,000 gave negative results. Then tells us that 10,000 men where arrested but doesn't tell us how many where tested as negative? so that one may not be as clear cut as it should be. Of course I disagree with drink driving entirely and have never personally taken the risk. I don't drink anymore but when I did, There is no way I would have been safe to drive a car in some of the states I used to wake up in. You may not feel as smashed as you did the night before. But I was damn sure that I wasn't with it enough to be able to control a vehicle in a safe manner. If you know you are driving somewhere in the morning and still choose to get leathered the night before, knowing that you will be rough and still have alcohol in your system you deserve what's coming to you.

Re: Drink driving at Christmas : Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:17 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Obviously I should have known nobody on here would agree considering the fact that nobody on here has ever drove with any alcohol in tbeir system, own a copied DVD/CD, downloaded a film, watched a TV program online or broke a single law.

To the best of my knowledge none of the ones highlighted have killed anyone.