Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:34 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

Genuine question. How many of those posts do you think are honest, genuine posts, and how many of them do you think are sock puppet accounts?

If there's one thing anyone should have learnt during this campaign, it's to be highly sceptical and questioning of what you read on social media. Tuesday's 'events' being prime examples. And don't say nobody falls for it. Some of the most prominent 'journalists' were propagating everything they could about the 'Leeds hospital punch', which turned out to be nothing of the sort. Peston even admitted he was fed the line by senior Tories in his apology. We'll not even go into the young lad on the hospital floor. It's amazing how so many former paediatric nurses emerged on social media that day, and all with exactly the same worded post.

Go on twitter now and see how many single mothers are voting Tory for the first time, then look at the date they joined twitter. I can guarantee they all joined in November 2019. Also, have a look at how many lifelong Labour voters are apparently scared of the security risk Corbyn poses, therefore they'll be voting Tory for the first time. It's playing on the weak, the vulnerable, the frightened, and the confused. See how it works?

Spot on

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:22 pm  

Cronus wrote:

I'm seeing a huge volume of anti-Labour language on local (mostly traditional Labour) community social media sites - even a massive Labour seat like Leigh is balanced on a knife edge,
Plus you could stick a red rosette on a turd in some seats like Wigan and Labour would still win.

Thursday is going to be very interesting.

I think Leigh will still be Labour after today, but with a reduced majority. Jo Platt has only surfaced this last few weeks from wherever she has been hiding.

I read all the political stuff on social media regarding my home town and peoples views, I am reading more and more anti Labour than pro Labour.

Alas though, people will moan about Labours lack of representation in Leigh, but will still vote for them.

And you are right about sticking a red rosette on a turd.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:43 pm  

RoyBoy29 wrote:

I think Leigh will still be Labour after today, but with a reduced majority. Jo Platt has only surfaced this last few weeks from wherever she has been hiding.

I read all the political stuff on social media regarding my home town and peoples views, I am reading more and more anti Labour than pro Labour.

Alas though, people will moan about Labours lack of representation in Leigh, but will still vote for them.

And you are right about sticking a red rosette on a turd.

See previous couple of posts.

I could easily say the same about Tory or Brexit voting people in certain areas. Just because people vote labour doesn't mean they would always do it, just means that they dont have the same views as the "I'm alright Jack, pull the ladder up on everyone else, nationalistic, fake news, in it for themselves, couldn't give a monkey's about others (and I could go on) voting Tory's for example .

I've had my debates internally about who to vote for, what I will say is that this thread over the last week or so has certainly convinced me of what type of person i dont want to become and who i definitely Will Not be voting for.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:16 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

I've had my debates internally about who to vote for, what I will say is that this thread over the last week or so has certainly convinced me of what type of person i dont want to become and who i definitely Will Not be voting for.

Same here.
Mainly, I don't want to be the type of person who 'picks a side' and then becomes a mouthpiece for spewing out their crappy lines.

It's bad enough hearing the same lines from politicians, I don't want people on my social media feed spamming me with them. If someone wants to post their own individual political views thats fine I just don't want to hear the same predictable crap and the same predictable takes on whatever media event happens (classic example being the picture of the boy on the hospital floor). Think about things yourself rather than just being told what view to take and repeating it.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:22 pm  

I like to think I have a social conscience hence I do not like anything about the current government who appear to preach look after number one and if you fall through the gaps tough. If you have money you can fast track your visa to enter the UK, if not good luck because we are shut.
The problem is that what we do to the citizens of the EU they will do to us.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:54 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

Genuine question. How many of those posts do you think are honest, genuine posts, and how many of them do you think are sock puppet accounts?

If there's one thing anyone should have learnt during this campaign, it's to be highly sceptical and questioning of what you read on social media. Tuesday's 'events' being prime examples. And don't say nobody falls for it. Some of the most prominent 'journalists' were propagating everything they could about the 'Leeds hospital punch', which turned out to be nothing of the sort. Peston even admitted he was fed the line by senior Tories in his apology. We'll not even go into the young lad on the hospital floor. It's amazing how so many former paediatric nurses emerged on social media that day, and all with exactly the same worded post.

Go on twitter now and see how many single mothers are voting Tory for the first time, then look at the date they joined twitter. I can guarantee they all joined in November 2019. Also, have a look at how many lifelong Labour voters are apparently scared of the security risk Corbyn poses, therefore they'll be voting Tory for the first time. It's playing on the weak, the vulnerable, the frightened, and the confused. See how it works?

You could argue that there are Labour/Green accounts of a similar ilk, and there are, but you could counter argue that they have far more gravitas, as they've had 9 actual years experience of coalition and Tory rule.

My retired Mum keeps asking me how she can join Facebook. If she can't work it out for herself, there's no way I'm feeding her to the lions! Within a week, she'd be buying magic beans, sending all her money to Prince Ngobu of Nigeria, and worse still, voting Tory.

No offence but I don't need lessons on social media. As it happens I only really bother with facebook; lost all interest in the absolute cockwomble-fest that is twatter a long time ago. Most of the groups I'm referring to are closed groups, and I always take a quick look at profiles posting such comments - I genuinely haven't seen any bearing the usual hallmarks of a questionable profile.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:01 pm  

Exit poll prediction:

Conservative: 368 (+50)
Labour: 191 (-71)
SNP: 55 (+20)
Lib Dem: 13 (+1)
PC: 3 (-1)
Green: 1
Brexit: 0
Others: 19 (+1)

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:28 am  

Cronus wrote:

Exit poll prediction:

Conservative: 368 (+50)
Labour: 191 (-71)
SNP: 55 (+20)
Lib Dem: 13 (+1)
PC: 3 (-1)
Green: 1
Brexit: 0
Others: 19 (+1)

Positive for Labour. The Conservatives will not get as many seats as in the record Thatcher win in 1973.(397)

Negative for Labour. They will not get as many seats as they won in 1973(209).

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:30 am  

Conservatives gain Leigh from Labour. This is this the first time ever in Leigh since 1922.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:54 am  

Labour are fooked, we can all enjoy a Christmas without a terrorist sympathiser anywhere near government.