Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:49 am  

Rock God X wrote:

And around we go...

Don't be so critical, he's obviously put a great deal of thought into that post

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:04 am  

liedetector wrote:

I think its a brilliant idea. Id have the dole wollers helping local government for their payments. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.

...and you'd be back here in a couple of months saying that it's not right that these people have guaranteed jobs.
Or am I wrong?

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:09 am  

If anyone missed it last night, I can recommend watching Ian Hislop's "When Bankers Were Good" on BBC iPlayer

If anyone missed it last night, I can recommend watching Ian Hislop's "When Bankers Were Good" on BBC iPlayer

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:59 am  

cod'ead wrote: If anyone missed it last night, I can recommend watching Ian Hislop's "When Bankers Were Good" on BBC iPlayer 'twas good, especially the Bishops viewpoint.

cod'ead wrote: If anyone missed it last night, I can recommend watching Ian Hislop's "When Bankers Were Good" on BBC iPlayer 'twas good, especially the Bishops viewpoint.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:09 pm  

John Harris putting in yet another good article. He's been very instrumental in getting the Guardian to expose this scam that's going on right now.

John Harris putting in yet another good article. He's been very instrumental in getting the Guardian to expose this scam that's going on right now.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:46 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Have you read the links or did you see the quote and article from the FT (hardly some bastion of lefty thinking)?

Plus the other quote I posted?

Yes. They are all about income inequality. Not about how incomes for all but the very top have fallen against the rising cost of living over the last 30 years. These are two completely different things and the latter intrigues me, hence why I asked for more information on where this particular statistic comes from.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:13 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Bit like you really - your inability to comprehend what is happening here ...

Irony overload! Irony overload.

Do you remember those bananas, Sal – the one you thought I wanted you to stop buying because you're not capable of reading and comprehending a post properly?

Do you remember the expenses that you insisted all those carers etc were getting?

Do you remember all those times you've been shown, by various posters, to be incapable of comprehension – or just in possession of things that weren't facts – but then mysteriously failed to acknowledge?

liedetector wrote:

I think its a brilliant idea. Id have the dole wollers helping local government for their payments. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.

Why is it that reactionaries are so often barely literate? Is it just an indication of how things are in the 'real world'?

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:17 pm  

SBR wrote: Yes. They are all about income inequality. Not about how incomes for all but the very top have fallen against the rising cost of living over the last 30 years. These are two completely different things and the latter intrigues me, hence why I asked for more information on where this particular statistic comes from. The rising cost of living has been greater than the rate of rising pay for all by a tiny number. A quick search under 'falling wages UK' reveals all these links. http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gbx3_TZDg

SBR wrote: Yes. They are all about income inequality. Not about how incomes for all but the very top have fallen against the rising cost of living over the last 30 years. These are two completely different things and the latter intrigues me, hence why I asked for more information on where this particular statistic comes from. The rising cost of living has been greater than the rate of rising pay for all by a tiny number. A quick search under 'falling wages UK' reveals all these links. http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gbx3_TZDg

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:32 pm  

Mintball wrote: The rising cost of living has been greater than the rate of rising pay for all by a tiny number. A quick search under 'falling wages UK' reveals all these links. http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gbx3_TZDg They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that over the last 30 years income has fallen against the cost of living.

Mintball wrote: The rising cost of living has been greater than the rate of rising pay for all by a tiny number. A quick search under 'falling wages UK' reveals all these links. http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gbx3_TZDg They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that over the last 30 years income has fallen against the cost of living.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:07 pm  

SBR wrote: They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that over the last 30 years income has fallen against the cost of living. If that's down to the recession alone, then why isn't it impacting on those at the very top too? I have access to Google – here's another search: 'falling Uk wages 30 years'. There's plenty. http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gaU_Ny7Dg

SBR wrote: They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that over the last 30 years income has fallen against the cost of living. If that's down to the recession alone, then why isn't it impacting on those at the very top too? I have access to Google – here's another search: 'falling Uk wages 30 years'. There's plenty. http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gaU_Ny7Dg