Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:19 am  

24954 posts you’ve done on here over the years. I’m sure if I wanted to I could find out how many hours you’ve spent browsing the forums. On top of all that you’ve been a pretty active moderator. Yes people do have a life outside of the internet but don’t try use that excuse as the reason why you can’t ever expand on what you write in detail. Because clearly you’ve had plenty of time to do so.
Owned by damo

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:00 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Damo this is a battle you can't win, and by trying to protest you're just fighting a battle on terms that they control, the mods are just laughing at you they will say they haven't breached their AUP and that you brought it on yourself. They want to lord their cyberpower over you as this is a web forum and that's a bit of limited power they have in their lives.

Anyway it's not as though this is a case of infringements in human rights, it's just some people writing stuff on a web forum, there might be 4 or 5 getting their kicks out of picking on you but the rest of us can see what their behaviour is and that's why you've had support with people commenting that they are out of order, it's not you in the wrong, they are showing themselves up as sad acts.

The downside of a democracy is you have to listen to all sorts of idiots and on the Sin Bin there are a few users on here who don't have the capacity to handle a proper debate that respects other people, every thread they are in they get involved in some mud slinging insults against each other (we all know who I mean).

So unfortunately if you're going to read the Sin Bin and post in threads you have to put up with the fact this lot are roaming round it, the best way to cut short an argument of personal insults is not to answer to any post that's a personal attack, if someone slags you off online just ignore it, you don't have to justify yourself to randomers on the internet...

Most sensible post I've read on the Sin Bin in a long time. Are you're sure you're not my husband, he tells me exactly the same thing when I get annoyed and upset on here

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:58 am  

Dally wrote:

It can be made much, much cheaper in the Far East (including shipment) meaning that the UK company can make money on it. The design, marketing, etc will probably have been done here (which will have generated higher incomes to all here than the manufucturing would). These bulk, low-grade items are best dealt with in lower wage economies. If we do it here, we earn lower wages. At the end of the day the punters will only pay a certain price for what i view assuch pointless tat. When you take off the retailers mark-up, the wholesalers mark-up, the UK manufacturers profit, marketing, design, there's bugger all left to actually make it. So, better that the willing masses of the Far East do that. Everyone is then better off - them AND us. However, China is rapidly doing what Japan did and moving beyond that and costs are rising.

Dally, will you stop posting sensible economics on here. It will just confuse people.......


You are, of course, spot on with your analysis. A lot of people just look at the "Made in China" thing and think that's the entire value chain.

Take a pair of Nike trainers. The value there is in the brand. The shoes may have been assembled in Taiwan, and the $5 or so of materials made there.

The $50 worth of marketing is "sold" from offices in New York.

As you said though, the real driver for the world economy will be if China can develop it's middle classes. If this happens it's not unfeasable that in 20 years they will be posting on their forums moaning about the fact that everything they buy is made in the EU

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:12 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

It isn't even subtle, and I find it slightly amusing that some get wound up by him,

Me too. It's not like he's just appeared either, his MO has been the same for years. Either way, he's effective. From those lining up to attack the stupidity of his posts, to the ever so earnest statements of support, he's attracting all the attention he craves with the minimum of effort. He must be laughing his arrse off!

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:42 am  

Rock God X wrote:

Me too. It's not like he's just appeared either, his MO has been the same for years. Either way, he's effective. From those lining up to attack the stupidity of his posts, to the ever so earnest statements of support, he's attracting all the attention he craves with the minimum of effort. He must be laughing his arrse off!

I hope he is laughing is 'arris off and having the last laugh - he's just show up some people for what they really are.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:43 am  

Just an update.

I’ve filed a report and I’m leaving it at that.

Hopefully this thread will stay so we can continue to debate about all kinds of issues around unemployment as opposed to just focusing on my own. I have a few other points I want to make in regards to the bigger issues that I will post later.

But hopefully my aggravators will lay off trying to drag the points I make into a tit for tat dick slinging match about the problems I face on a day to day basis.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:49 am  

Unemployment in the UK just under 3 million - REALLY ??

Deceptive Government !!

Jobcentre officials have moved hundreds of thousands of unemployed people claiming jobless benefits on to a separate training allowance over the past year, raising concerns the Government is fiddling the figures to mask the true extent of unemployment.

218,700 jobseekers were taken off Jobseeker's Allowance and moved on to training payments of equal value in the year to September 2011, while attending job-hunting courses and classed as officially "employed".

Unemployed people were on a training scheme during any one month over the period, with each course typically lasting six weeks. The courses are generally completely useless and often did not result in finding work.

All these courses do is help reduce unemployment figures, for a right wing government who wants to be seen as reducing unemployment & the green shoots recovery are around the corner !

Lies & deception !!


No official link for this as it was posted on a FB group. You can all make up your own minds as to what you think.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:16 am  

Hull White Star wrote:

Does anyone know Damo personally outside of Sin Bin and RL Fans? I'm only curious because you only know what he tells you. I'm not for one minute suggesting Damo is an outright liar but sometimes what people say on a public forum and what they do in real life are two different things.

Some people will be surprise to know that I have met Sal Paradise briefly at a rugby match. He didn’t spend his time on the terraces preaching about what he see’s as the errors of my ways. It was a pleasant encounter and so it should be because we was both they to enjoy a rugby match.

Everyone else I’ve met from RLFANS in real life has been a pleasure to meet also because I met them in similar circumstances to that of Sal. One person even invited me to sit in the press box at Headingley.

However if me and Sal were to frequent each other in circumstances other than rugby in real life then it probably wouldn’t work because of our clash of opinions. It’d be great entertainment mind - me and him slagging each other off at every opportunity we’d get. I’m sure that some people on here would revel in such camaraderie if those real life clashes carried on here. But I’m sure that Sal doesn’t want that as I certainly don’t. It's best that we debate on here and just leave it at that. If we bump into each other then I’m sure it’ll just be like last time. He certainly won’t be threatening to confront me on the terraces like one member once did on the Leeds forum.

I’ll always be grateful for whatever Sal tried to do for me that time he PM‘ed me with a job opportunity. But how he’s gone about after my rejection to his help in that particular time is a totally different matter all together.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:26 am  

Hull White Star wrote:

Unemployment in the UK just under 3 million - REALLY ??

Deceptive Government !!

Jobcentre officials have moved hundreds of thousands of unemployed people claiming jobless benefits on to a separate training allowance over the past year, raising concerns the Government is fiddling the figures to mask the true extent of unemployment.

218,700 jobseekers were taken off Jobseeker's Allowance and moved on to training payments of equal value in the year to September 2011, while attending job-hunting courses and classed as officially "employed".

Unemployed people were on a training scheme during any one month over the period, with each course typically lasting six weeks. The courses are generally completely useless and often did not result in finding work.

All these courses do is help reduce unemployment figures, for a right wing government who wants to be seen as reducing unemployment & the green shoots recovery are around the corner !

Lies & deception !!


No official link for this as it was posted on a FB group. You can all make up your own minds as to what you think.

.....Unemployment figures being manipulated????.....They don't do that, do they??....

Its been happening for years and years, under Tory, Labour and coalition governments, so why some clown creates a facebook group about it, I really don't know.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:56 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

:lol: .....Unemployment figures being manipulated????.....They don't do that, do they??....

Its been happening for years and years, under Tory, Labour and coalition governments, so why some clown creates a facebook group about it, I really don't know.

The clown that created the facebook page is disabled and its a page for disabled people who are worried about how we are being treated. In this group we all support each other, give words of encouragement and I have met some brilliant, kindhearted people through being in this group. Afterall we're all in this together!!