Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:37 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Oh dear, is that the best you can come up with?
OK, take the next general election.
Having experienced a term under the handbag rule, more people voted against her than for her.
Take the next after that, after people had experienced two terms, more people voted against her thand for her.
.

But this is the same for every PM post 1945, isn't it?

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:49 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

But this is the same for every PM post 1945, isn't it?

Whether or not that is the case does not change the fact that you were factually incorrect and El Barbudo was factually correct.

The fact is that the majority of those who cast a vote in the elections in 1983 and 1987 did not cast a vote for the Conservative Party/Margaret Thatcher.

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:44 pm  

Seeing as HMRC are offering bounties to tax evasion whistle blowers. I've just reported Barclays, Philip Green, Vodaphone and Lord Ashcroft. I'm now popping down to the travel agents to arrange a trip to view my Seychelles retirement villa

Seeing as HMRC are offering bounties to tax evasion whistle blowers. I've just reported Barclays, Philip Green, Vodaphone and Lord Ashcroft. I'm now popping down to the travel agents to arrange a trip to view my Seychelles retirement villa

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:53 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

But this is the same for every PM post 1945, isn't it?

Yes, of course.
That's the whole point.
Regardless of which PM you nominate as "the best" since, say 1945, the majority voted against them.
Hence, you cannot "prove" which one was best.

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:20 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Whether or not that is the case does not change the fact that you were factually incorrect and El Barbudo was factually correct.

The fact is that the majority of those who cast a vote in the elections in 1983 and 1987 did not cast a vote for the Conservative Party/Margaret Thatcher.

No, because we are debating whether the majority now rank Thatcher as one of the best PM's we've had.

As a result, election results from the time cannot be used to determine whether the majority now consider her to be one of the best.

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:31 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Yes, of course.
That's the whole point.
Regardless of which PM you nominate as "the best" since, say 1945, the majority voted against them.
Hence, you cannot "prove" which one was best.

This is true. But you can offer an opinion, and mine is that she was one of the best and the polls do agree with me.

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:53 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

This is true. But you can offer an opinion, and mine is that she was one of the best.

if you consider selling off the family silver and destroying the infrastructure of the country as a positive then yes, she was 'one of the best ' !

doesn't say much about the others then , does it ?

I mean, Mr Major left the economy in pretty good shape when Mr BLIAR took over so where does that rank him ?

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:53 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

This is true. But you can offer an opinion, and mine is that she was one of the best and the polls do agree with me.

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:12 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

No, because we are debating whether the majority now rank Thatcher as one of the best PM's we've had.

As a result, election results from the time cannot be used to determine whether the majority now consider her to be one of the best.

Heavenfuckinghelp.

Barbudo has been patiently explaining to you that, in terms of votes cast, she never won a majority at an election - certainly not after having served a term.

This is the best 'poll' you can get.

Now which part of this incredibly complex point do you have difficulty understanding?

Re: Is our Commie government losing the plot? : Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:23 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Barbudo has been patiently explaining to you that, in terms of votes cast, she never won a majority at an election - certainly not after having served a term.

This is the best 'poll' you can get.

Erm, no it's not. The debate is how the majority now, not when she was elected consider Thatchers time as prime minister. Geddit?

Election votes at the time cannot determine how great a PM is viewed now. Funny though, as if she was as bad as you make out, strange how she was elected three times.

Destoryed infrastructure, sold off the family silver, etc, etc, etc, but elected three times, consistently voted in the top 5 greatest PM's of all time and is going to have a state funeral.

Terrible wasn't she.