Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:26 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Yes but she talks to me

No answer yet - so apparently no longer.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:50 pm  

Dally wrote:

The whole point was that they had destroyed the Heath government and WERE acting in an anti-democratic way. In case it escaped your notice, the union membership was a tiny, insignificant fraction of the UK electorate. The majority of UK voters severely disliked militant trade unionism. That seems to be a fact that still escapes people in / near to ex-mining towns.

So why were Labour elected to power instead of Heath then?

It's also a good bet that if Jim Callaghan hadn't "done a Gordon Brown" and gone to the electorate in 1978, he would've been returned, Thatcher would've been dumped by the Conservatives and "Thatcherism" would never have entered the English vocabulary

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:05 pm  

Dally wrote:

The majority of UK voters severely disliked militant trade unionism. That seems to be a fact that still escapes people in / near to ex-mining towns.

Link or figures supporting this?

I also see you didn't want to touch the rest of my post.

BTW are EU bureaucrats voted for seeing as they have so much power?

The actual word 'bureaucrat' should give you a clue.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:25 am  

Rock God X wrote:

Oh dear. Hit a nerve, did I?

No. You just said something very stupid.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:10 am  

ROBINSON wrote:

No. You just said something very stupid.

No, you were unable to answer some fairly valid points put to you by another poster, so you resorted to your usual diversionary tactics.

You still haven't told us how much a person on minimum wage should have left to put into their pension pot after paying rent, council tax, gas, electricity, food, travel expenses and any other living costs that might be relevant.

I'm sure you were just getting round to it though.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:27 am  

Did anyone watch Question Time last night?

If not, I suggest you iPlayer it and take particular notice of tory peer Constance Briscoe, a judge and author. I know the judiciary are not particularly noted for being "down wi' the hood" but goodness help anyone from a less than average background who appears before her. She's certainly moved a long way from her roots.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:30 am  

Could you give us a couple of quotes, not enough bandwidth for iplayer at the mo?

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:32 am  

ROBINSON wrote:

It depends when you start, really. Start one early enough (and keep it up) like you're advised to, then yes.

I'm sure you know, however, that there will always be some kind of safety net for people who have been physically unable to, though. I doubt ANY government would be so callous as to remove that.

Glad you understood the second question, would you care to have a go at the first question now?
If not, no worries, as I see that you now acknowledge the need for a safety net and, as such, have now shifted from your original sweeping position of ...

ROBINSON wrote:

Nowadays, however, we're all educated (or should be), and therefore in my opinion at least, there is no excuse for not doing at least SOMETHING to ensure your retirement isn't spent freezing and living on lentils. It's not hard to set a pension up, and if you start one early enough, you'll get a reasonable whack out of it when you've stopped working...

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:35 am  

Rock God X wrote:

No, you were unable to answer some fairly valid points put to you by another poster, so you resorted to your usual diversionary tactics.

You still haven't told us how much a person on minimum wage should have left to put into their pension pot after paying rent, council tax, gas, electricity, food, travel expenses and any other living costs that might be relevant.

I'm sure you were just getting round to it though.

I've been waiting for him to tell us the amount, have a good laugh then give him the reality of how it is.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:21 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Could you give us a couple of quotes, not enough bandwidth for iplayer at the mo?

"I think we spend far too much time subsidising people who really don't want to work"

"In this country we have a 'something for nothing' attitude, the disparity between those who go out to work and those who stay at home is not significant enough and we've got to wisen up. My view is that too many people are on benefit and they can go out to work"

She never suggested where all these jobs are though, nor did she have any idea of numbers involved.