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| Sounds like the Tories are hatching a plan to "elect" Boris unopposed, as they are nervous about "blue on blue" debate. Truly shocking.
These are their own rules that they are wanting to ignore, not something imposed by a 3rd party 
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Yes, but it would be called 'citizen service', and wouldn't involve military service. Basically, young people would meet and work with other young people from around the country for a few weeks in order for them to meet people from different cultures and backgrounds. The view is that it will help to heal the division within the country and the youth some life skills.'"
You can be sure most home counties kids would miraculously develop bone spurs which would prevent them from participating.
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| I can't understand the need for televised debates when only the party members can vote on the next PM. It won't be a public vote like the referendum or a GE. Why inflict it on everyone else ?
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"I can't understand the need for televised debates when only the party members can vote on the next PM. It won't be a public vote like the referendum or a GE. Why inflict it on everyone else ?'"
So that their lies are out in the open, and they can be held to account? Not that it matters much these days. MPs seem to be able to spout whatever nonsense they like without being challenged.
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| The Donald and Bumbling Boris, leaders of the free world.
Beam me up Scotty!
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"The Donald and Bumbling Boris, leaders of the free world.
Beam me up Scotty!'"
Just looking at an atlas and I'm pretty much as far away from these two "bastions of democracy" as I could be.......thank the gods.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"The Donald and Bumbling Boris, leaders of the free world.
Beam me up Scotty!'"
They do have plenty of common ground, at least in the way that they conduct themselves in the political arena.
Both with swear that "black is white" and then deny having said anything.
Boris tries to cover over his racist views by describing them as "mistakes" when he's called out.
Some of his language when describing Muslims or "Black" women has been bloody disgraceful.
What did the world do to "deserve" these two clowns 
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| I’m starting to miss Theresa May already, red lines, hostile environment and all.
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| Strange how silent the Brexiteers are over the threat to democracy when 0.0005% of the population are currently deciding who will 'lead' this country for the next few years.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Strange how silent the Brexiteers are over the threat to democracy when 0.0005% of the population are currently deciding who will 'lead' this country for the next few years.'"
The Conservatives’ mandate is very weak and the new leader taking it on second hand is not going to be in a strong position. His party won’t allow a deal, Parliament won’t allow no deal, a general election would be massively unpredictable with the Brexit Party and committed Remain parties taking votes from the Conservatives and Labour, and a second referendum would likely be close enough to not solve the problem. Stalemate.
Clumsy, ugly and potentially disasterous as it will be, maybe it needs someone like Johnson to bring it to a head, and see how it falls out. Or maybe he’ll just tie himself and us in even more Gordian knots.
We really have made a right pig’s ear of this.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"The Conservatives’ mandate is very weak and the new leader taking it on second hand is not going to be in a strong position. His party won’t allow a deal, Parliament won’t allow no deal, a general election would be massively unpredictable with the Brexit Party and committed Remain parties taking votes from the Conservatives and Labour, and a second referendum would likely be close enough to not solve the problem. Stalemate.
Clumsy, ugly and potentially disasterous as it will be, maybe it needs someone like Johnson to bring it to a head, and see how it falls out. Or maybe he’ll just tie himself and us in even more Gordian knots.
We really have made a right pig’s ear of this.'"
I'm not disagreeing with much of that. Johnson doesn't give a toss; he lies to his family, lies to the populace & will be immune to any fall out. Seeing supposedly ethical colleagues lining up behind him to be seen to be supporting the victor & secure a prominent position in the new cabinet is vomit inducing. It reaffirms to me Brexit is all about forriners not democracy.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I'm not disagreeing with much of that. Johnson doesn't give a toss; he lies to his family, lies to the populace & will be immune to any fall out. Seeing supposedly ethical colleagues lining up behind him to be seen to be supporting the victor & secure a prominent position in the new cabinet is vomit inducing. It reaffirms to me Brexit is all about forriners not democracy.'"
I have yet to meet a politician who doesn't lie to the populace when it suits, What Brexit has reaffirmed to me is that we don't live in an open democracy as some will advocate, we live in a parliamentary democracy, god help us with this shower what ever party.
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