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Re: Stop Moaning And Work Harder! : Mon May 14, 2012 1:58 pm  
The Tories are at risk of imploding again, like they did in the late 1990s, when the right wing loonies in the party take over and push their agendas of opposing the EU and offering tax cuts for high earners, which will squeeze them electorally as these are not priorities for the majority of the electorate.

However what will probably save them at the moment is a weak opposition because Ed Miliband and Ed Balls do not look credible. If David Miliband was leader of the Labour party he would be have Cameron on the run and slapping him at every opportunity, like Blair did to Major. In fact I actually think if Alastair Darling was leader of the Labour party he would have Cameron in trouble as he had an element of trustworthy gravitas to him that Ed Miliband doesn't.
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Re: Stop Moaning And Work Harder! : Mon May 14, 2012 2:04 pm  
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The one thing that will stop them is the voters don't trust them now, they will trust them even less with a jerk to the right. Turkeys won't vote for Christmas and those MP's doing the whinging will keep quiet, see out their term and collect the gold plated handout at the end of it, not to mention the handsome pension for many.
Fair points.
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Re: Stop Moaning And Work Harder! : Mon May 14, 2012 3:14 pm  
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The Tories are at risk of imploding again, like they did in the late 1990s, when the right wing loonies in the party take over and push their agendas of opposing the EU and offering tax cuts for high earners, which will squeeze them electorally as these are not priorities for the majority of the electorate.

However what will probably save them at the moment is a weak opposition because Ed Miliband and Ed Balls do not look credible. If David Miliband was leader of the Labour party he would be have Cameron on the run and slapping him at every opportunity, like Blair did to Major. In fact I actually think if Alastair Darling was leader of the Labour party he would have Cameron in trouble as he had an element of trustworthy gravitas to him that Ed Miliband doesn't.


The trouble with HM Opposition is that they were bereft of ideas at the end of their time in power and they haven't found any new blood to give them an edge. There is still an air (rightly or wrongly) that they didn't do very much to get us out of the mess.
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Re: Stop Moaning And Work Harder! : Mon May 14, 2012 4:19 pm  
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Whether you agree with the ideology or not, the private sector bosses argue for austerity on the grounds that it will help lead to 'private sector led growth', which is what the Conservative party also think, they have got a Conservative party elected into government and they are doing their bit to put that ideology forwards.....so now the private sector bosses have to step up to the plate and deliver it.


I don't think that is strictly true. I think there are plenty of bosses who realise the state has a role in the economy. What some of them want to be is the provider of services and goods on behalf of the state. So with the NHS they want the state to pay i.e. use our taxes to pay them to provide the service. It is the same in things like education, transport - you name it.

Now if the government stops spending on these things then the private sector overall will contract and won't create any jobs.

So where Hauge is talking rubbish is that the implication of what he says is the private sector that is not involved in any government funded work is the part of the private sector that can and should be working harder to fill the gap. There is not necessarily any demand out there for them to increase their output. It can't be the private sector that supplies the government that works harder because the government is cutting back on expenditure.

Or put another way our resident Tory, Robinson, is being expected by Hague to sell more houses so he needs to take on more staff to do so but like a lot of private enterprises I doubt he is in a position to do this to any great degree if at all given the state of the economy.

Hague can tell the banks to lend and he can cut corporation tax and then sit back and say "There I have created the conditions for growth" but given the economic uncertainties at the moment it is hardly surprising companies are protecting their shareholders wealth by being completely risk averse and are so doing basically nothing.
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Re: Stop Moaning And Work Harder! : Mon May 14, 2012 8:13 pm  
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I feel I already work hard enough thanks.

I suppose these Tory boys expect us all to work 14 hour shifts in sweat shops for a pittance like workers in the Far East and India.


Oh OK.

Did he say that?
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Breivik Trial thread : Tue May 15, 2012 7:11 am  
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Oh OK.

Did he say that?

Maybe not, but he's fooking little oik! Ever since he pre-pubescently stood on that stage at the Tory party conference and you and the blue-rinsers lapped it up. Are you a little fooking oik? I can imagine so!
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Re: Breivik Trial thread : Tue May 15, 2012 8:29 am  
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Maybe not, but he's fooking little oik! Ever since he pre-pubescently stood on that stage at the Tory party conference and you and the blue-rinsers lapped it up. Are you a little fooking oik? I can imagine so!


No need to get personal.

So basically, because he made a speech when he was 17, that directly effects what he said yesterday?

Very strange.
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Breivik Trial thread : Tue May 15, 2012 8:34 am  
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No need to get personal.

So basically, because he made a speech when he was 17, that directly effects what he said yesterday?

Very strange.

I want bum-sex with his Mrs, I know that much. Would you slot her Robbo?
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Re: Stop Moaning And Work Harder! : Tue May 15, 2012 9:59 am  
Okay, okay: let's try to keep it within the 'watershed' approach.
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Re: Breivik Trial thread : Tue May 15, 2012 10:10 am  
WIZEB wrote:
Maybe not, but he's fooking little oik! Ever since he pre-pubescently stood on that stage at the Tory party conference and you and the blue-rinsers lapped it up. Are you a little fooking oik? I can imagine so!


blimey WZ, who rattled you cage ?

bit tetchy today mate ?
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