Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 6:56 am  

cod'ead wrote: Look at what we've managed to do in only two years I'll lay odds my comment don't last long on there Didn't count for much yesterday did it? If the results don't send out a clear message then I don't know what will. Waiting for the Tory supporters on here with their "only local .....means nothing" excuses.

cod'ead wrote: Look at what we've managed to do in only two years I'll lay odds my comment don't last long on there Didn't count for much yesterday did it? If the results don't send out a clear message then I don't know what will. Waiting for the Tory supporters on here with their "only local .....means nothing" excuses.

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 12:07 pm  

Hull White Star wrote:

Didn't count for much yesterday did it? If the results don't send out a clear message then I don't know what will.

Have the results been extrapolated out anywhere to what it would mean in a general election?

Not sure whether Labour would have made big enough gains to defeat the Axis of Evil/Incompetence.

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 12:14 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Have the results been extrapolated out anywhere to what it would mean in a general election?

Not sure whether Labour would have made big enough gains to defeat the Axis of Evil/Incompetence.

I think the comeback of Blair shows Labour are on the way to power

[Kosh]

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 12:14 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Have the results been extrapolated out anywhere to what it would mean in a general election?

Not sure whether Labour would have made big enough gains to defeat the Axis of Evil/Incompetence.

Labour projected to get around 39% of the national vote. In like-for-like they're up around 11 points on their last local election showing.

One thing is clear - the LibDems are finished.

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 12:30 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Labour projected to get around 39% of the national vote. In like-for-like they're up around 11 points on their last local election showing.

One thing is clear - the LibDems are finished.

But 39% is way too low under the circs. You need to be getting well over 40% at a time like this. Labour still has a mountain to climb to win the next GE (especially if the economy picks up a bit).

[John_D]

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 2:29 pm  

Kosh wrote:

One thing is clear - the LibDems are finished.

Finished behind a bloke in penguin costume calling himself Professor Pongoo in Edinburgh

[Kosh]

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 4:05 pm  

Dally wrote:

But 39% is way too low under the circs. You need to be getting well over 40% at a time like this. Labour still has a mountain to climb to win the next GE (especially if the economy picks up a bit).

Rubbish. Labour's current lead would see them with 375 MPs vs 197 for the Tories if duplicated at a GE. That's plenty of headroom given the utter incompetence of the Coalition and the defection of right-wing Tories to UKIP.

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 4:35 pm  

Dally wrote:

But 39% is way too low under the circs. You need to be getting well over 40% at a time like this. Labour still has a mountain to climb to win the next GE (especially if the economy picks up a bit).

The HoC graphics I saw gave Labour a theoretical majority of 68 seats

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 9:29 pm  

Yes, but I get the impression most usual Tory voters abstained. Also, if they reverse the Granny Tax before a GE they're recover alot. Their core vote is older people who are not poor - ie those targetted by the tax. Most stupid budget decision ever - although they can reverse it.

Re: It's a Double dip : Fri May 04, 2012 10:22 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Have the results been extrapolated out anywhere to what it would mean in a general election?

Not sure whether Labour would have made big enough gains to defeat the Axis of Evil/Incompetence.

The Conservatives were in worse position than this in 1981 and also in 1986 (only 11 months before the 87 election where they won a 100 odd seat majority) and then were dead and buried in 1990 during the poll tax riots, in each case they came back to win the General Elections.

With Ed Miliband as Labour leader, one thing is for sure Labour won't win an overall majority.