Re: Duty of care : Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:48 pm  

Choc Ice wrote:

Don't understand how contact with the head is fine when you have the ball but unacceptable when you don't.

Not complaining about the Grand Final or the picture in question (hastings tackle on fages was fine though ) just think that's a reasonable inconsistency to point out

I think Woolf contributed to the penalty decision. This is exactly why he made the public statement regarding high tackles after the last game between us. It’s all mind games with referees

Re: Duty of care : Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:28 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

If we started making them run with their arms by their sides they would get mullered.

Nobody is saying that. All the things I described above happen, and often. They are contraventions of the laws of the game, and should be penalised.

Re: Duty of care : Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:54 pm  

moto748 wrote:

Nobody is saying that. All the things I described above happen, and often. They are contraventions of the laws of the game, and should be penalised.

I think there has to be a differentiation between a ball carrier 'getting his bumpers up' to protect himself and what we deem to be a penalty (or more!) for leading with the forearm or elbow. The former happens every game and is bound to lead to some element of contact with the head of the defender on occasion. Just like plenty of legitimate tackles involve a degree of contact with the head but are left alone. The game is played in shades of grey, not black and white. As long as we're getting the stand-outs (ie that McShane one last year) then it's alright. If you go the other way you either get a ton of penalties or the ball carriers start surrendering to avoid getting smashed into next week.

Re: Duty of care : Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:14 am  

Some of the penalties now being given for a high tackle are anything but a high tackle!

Re: Duty of care : Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:54 am  

turning into rugby union

Re: Duty of care : Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:17 pm  

Pieman wrote:

turning into rugby union

...where any incidental contact above the shoulder can result in a yellow card. They seem very relaxed about head injuries in contested scrums and driving mauls, though.

Re: Duty of care : Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:45 am  

moto748 wrote:

...where any incidental contact above the shoulder can result in a yellow card. They seem very relaxed about head injuries in contested scrums and driving mauls, though.

yep, watched england last week after our awesome GF game the man of the match who was a "monster" all game made 7 tackles and 7 carries, Tony Clubb should go to union