Re: Perspective is All : Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:21 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

They're still ringing round to see if anyone wants a game.

Shocking

I'm washing my hair Friday night, so that's me out.

Re: Perspective is All : Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:26 pm  

CW8 wrote:

In my view we are a team with enough trump cards in it to win any match through individual moments of magic. I'm encouraged that we have had a few great team performances so far this season as well. BUT I'm just waiting for the next pathetic performance a la the semifinal or Huddersfield a couple of weeks before.

I don't view saints or Wigan as better teams than us this season, they really aren't that special and whilst Catalans look very good we have beaten them twice so far. Hull and Cas can beat anyone and Hull KR are playing some great rugby. Overall I'd be feeling quite confident of lifting the big one if we didn't have those terrible performances in us, what's worse is that we seem resigned to those poor performances when we start badly.

The perspective is that ultimately when it comes to the business end saints or Wigan will very likely win it, as usual.

I think it's a reflection of just how poor the standard of SL is this year.
On paper we arguably have a team to compete with any other, BUT......
How many of our players are playing near or at their potential?
Widdop, King, Coops, Hill, Mamo possibly Ratch - and none of them consistently.
That's a coaching issue for me.

Re: Perspective is All : Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:42 pm  

fez1 wrote:

I think it's a reflection of just how poor the standard of SL is this year.
On paper we arguably have a team to compete with any other, BUT......
How many of our players are playing near or at their potential?
Widdop, King, Coops, Hill, Mamo possibly Ratch - and none of them consistently.
That's a coaching issue for me.

Agreed.

Re: Perspective is All : Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:03 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

They're still ringing round to see if anyone wants a game.

Shocking

Putting a bunch of players from different clubs together for warm up game, noting recent Covid outbreaks in SL teams, is pretty shocking too.

Re: Perspective is All : Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:34 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

They're still ringing round to see if anyone wants a game.

Shocking

According to Dave Woods a number of clubs are refusing to release their players to appear for the All Stars. They've all known about this game for months.
Another example of the clubs having way too much power.
Could this happen in any other sport but RL?

Re: Perspective is All : Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:53 am  

Matt King's kitten wrote: According to Dave Woods a number of clubs are refusing to release their players to appear for the All Stars. They've all known about this game for months. Another example of the clubs having way too much power. Could this happen in any other sport but RL? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/57561652 It makes the point that the dates of the England fixture was known before all of the clubs signed up to the revised SL fixture list.

Matt King's kitten wrote: According to Dave Woods a number of clubs are refusing to release their players to appear for the All Stars. They've all known about this game for months. Another example of the clubs having way too much power. Could this happen in any other sport but RL? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/57561652 It makes the point that the dates of the England fixture was known before all of the clubs signed up to the revised SL fixture list.

Re: Perspective is All : Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:55 am  

The game will be nothing like an international match.
Some clubs are taking huge hits and it is as if the League is not that important.
The clubs should never have agreed to this in the first instance.

Re: Perspective is All : Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:11 am  

If the idea was to give England a proper, competitive hit-out, why not arrange a game against one of the other home nations, rather than have them play a scratch side that seems like it's being put together at just a few hours' notice?

[Winslade's Offload]

Re: Perspective is All : Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 am  

Cricket only survives in the UK because they have well attended international matches that bring in large amounts of dosh. Rugby Union is in a similar position, heaven knows how much they rake in from the six nations and Autumn tests. We desperately need the same sort of set up and hence we must prioritise our international games in my view. As it stands the club chairmen seem intent on rearranging their own deckchairs whilst the whole ship sinks.

Re: Perspective is All : Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:41 am  

The Speculator wrote:

This is a major issue with Wire. It was mentioned before the Challenge Cup semi-final by one of the BBC pundits (might have been Jamie Peacock, I can't recall) that we are great frontrunners, but if we go one or two scores down, we rarely come back from it. And sure enough, that's exactly what happened in the cup game - went behind early, body language was then awful, didn't have the composure to turn it around. It's a longstanding problem that needs fixing.

Well that’s hardly an equation Einstein had to figure out, just obvious from JP.
Almost every team that is 12 down early on isn’t going to turn it around!