Re: England 17 named... : Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:48 pm  

If England getting spanked = Mc Banana getting the bullet then so be it.
Short term pain for long term gain!!

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:45 am  

Wire_in_Wigan wrote:

For crying out loud, you might not have the players selected that you wanted to be selected, i know i dont, but to want your own country to get ''spanked'' in a international game is just silly.

As others have pointed out, it's worth losing a couple of meaningless games if it results in McNamara going. The option of scraping wins against the Exiles, cruising against France and Wales, then getting spanked again in the World Cup is worse. Even if he stays, losing might get through to him that his selections are flawed (to put it mildly).

It's not just at international level either. I know a lot of people that were glad we got hammered by Wakefield away in 2006, because it meant the end of agent Millward.

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:42 am  

Pemps wrote:

Other than the fact that he's not English, I don't really have too much of a problem with the inclusion of Chase but I would have paired him with Brough.

He isn't a scrum half. If we have to play Sinfield, I rate Brough above Chase. The Sinfield-Chase halfback 'partnership' just really doesn't work for me, they just don't work well together.

As for Ablett, he isn't even a first choice centre at the club in 9th(?) place, where the first choice centres are both English. How he can possibly be England's centre is beyond me.

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:40 am  

Bovrick wrote:

He isn't a scrum half. If we have to play Sinfield, I rate Brough above Chase. The Sinfield-Chase halfback 'partnership' just really doesn't work for me, they just don't work well together.

As for Ablett, he isn't even a first choice centre at the club in 9th(?) place, where the first choice centres are both English. How he can possibly be England's centre is beyond me.

Chase and Brough would be infinitely better IMO, God only knows why McBanana keps going with him. Having him at 6 at the expense of Gaz Widdop in last year's 4N was ludicrous but to stick with it almost a year later is plain stupid.

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:49 am  

I’d back a combination team of Wigan and Warrington players
Coached by Wane and Smith

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Atkins
Riley
Briers
O’Brien
Mossop
Mcllorum
Carvell
Hock
Westwood,
O’loughlin

Hill
Farrell
Harrison
Hughes

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:53 am  

Wire_in_Wigan wrote:

For crying out loud, you might not have the players selected that you wanted to be selected, i know i dont, but to want your own country to get ''spanked'' in a international game is just silly.

i had to get a glass of water then i started to feel funny, i actually agree with you.

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:54 am  

Mountain Man wrote:

I’d back a combination team of Wigan and Warrington players
Coached by Wane and Smith

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Atkins
Riley
Briers
O’Brien
Mossop
Mcllorum
Carvell
Hock
Westwood,
O’loughlin

Hill
Farrell
Harrison
Hughes

this team is stronger than the one for england.

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:59 am  

dubairl wrote:

this team is stronger than the one for england.

Of course it is, McNamara has nothing to do with it.

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:03 am  

Newton-Le-willows-Warrior wrote:

the team should be something like

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Darrell Goulding
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Rangi Chase
7. Danny Brough
8. Lee Mossop
9. James Roby
10. Eorl Crabtree
11. Gareth Hock
12. Danny Tickle
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Mike McIllorum
15. Andy Lynch
16. Gareth Carvell
17. Jamie Jones Buchanan

spot on for me, plus with the NRL players joining at the end of season we could have a very exciting team on our hands but sadly we wont get to see it any time soon with McNamara picking the team.

[Pemps]

Re: England 17 named... : Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:08 am  

Mountain Man wrote:

I’d back a combination team of Wigan and Warrington players
Coached by Wane and Smith

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Atkins
Riley
Briers
O’Brien
Mossop
Mcllorum
Carvell
Hock
Westwood,
O’loughlin

Hill
Farrell
Harrison
Hughes

Briers is Welsh