: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:21 pm  

Always amazes me how many fans - our own included - will look for almost any excuse, however tenuous, rather than credit the opposition - who they have convinced themselves are beneath them - with actually playing quite well and outplaying them on the day.

No, makes you feel better for some reason if you instead say the opposition was crap, but were were even more crap.

Funny, isn't it?

An example of this wrote:

Bradford were rank last night, make no mistake about it, but they were better than Leeds. Hence the complaints about Leeds.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:23 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

Yeah. On paper your forwards are pretty good butagainst us, manly and saints they seemed to be bullied and the opposing forwards were able to control the game. I'll say what I said at the start of the season - Our pack is sone of, if not the best pack in the league.

Yep i'd agree with that. We are lacking a forward in Eastwood but even aside from that I dont think our forwards have been as good as they should be so far this season. We havent seen Leulaui knocking people flying or doing big runs, Peacock, while his work rate may still be high its not to the same quality we'd expect, Burgess is still a young lad and I worry about giving him too much work to do and Bailey has shown both his pros and cons in the last few weeks in that he nearly, singlehanded, got us back in the game against Saints in the league, but hasnt done much else.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:37 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Always amazes me how many fans - our own included - will look for almost any excuse, however tenuous, rather than credit the opposition - who they have convinced themselves are beneath them - with actually playing quite well and outplaying them on the day.

No, makes you feel better for some reason if you instead say the opposition was crap, but were were even more crap.

Funny, isn't it?

Not too sure what the stats are, but I reckon we must have beaten you something like 8 or 9 out of the last 10 meets, which probably accounts for the shocked reaction to last nights scoreline.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:40 pm  

BillyRhino wrote:

Not too sure what the stats are, but I reckon we must have beaten you something like 8 or 9 out of the last 10 meets, which probably accounts for the shocked reaction to last nights scoreline.

We had not beaten you at Odsal since 2003, before last night

We've had a bit more success at Headingley, but don't have the stats to hand.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:52 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

We've had a bit more success at Headingley, but don't have the stats to hand.

Bradford V Leeds @ Odsal (League & Play-off) since 2000

Bradford - 8
Leeds - 8
Drawn - 1

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:54 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

We've had a bit more success at Headingley, but don't have the stats to hand.

Bradford V Leeds @ Headingley since 2000 (League & Play-off)

Bradford - 7
Leeds - 6

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:02 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

We had not beaten you at Odsal since 2003, before last night

We've had a bit more success at Headingley, but don't have the stats to hand.

Interestingly the average is just in favour of Leeds by decimals though. If we add in one more SL match before 2000 We win

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:24 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

Interestingly the average is just in favour of Leeds by decimals though. If we add in one more SL match before 2000 We win

In fairness, I'd say the period 2004 onwards - i.e. the season after we won the lot including the kitchen sink - is more relevant to the current discussion? What are the stats for that period at Headingley, to save me looking them up?

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:37 pm  

I don't really want to take it away from Bradford, but I'm going to. We were garbage last night, and Bradford were ever so slightly better. A Bradford with Solomona, Morrison and Deacon would have put the cleaners through us IMO. That was one of the worst performances we've come up with in the last 5 years.
But who cares? We'll recover, probably finish 2nd in the league and then probably make Old Trafford. We shouldn't play that badly again, and hopefully we can take it to Saints at Old Trafford again.

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:56 pm  

Matt23 wrote:

I don't really want to take it away from Bradford, but I'm going to. We were garbage last night, and Bradford were ever so slightly better. A Bradford with Solomona, Morrison and Deacon would have put the cleaners through us IMO. That was one of the worst performances we've come up with in the last 5 years.
But who cares? We'll recover, probably finish 2nd in the league and then probably make Old Trafford. We shouldn't play that badly again, and hopefully we can take it to Saints at Old Trafford again.

I care, and i hope that Brian McClennan, Francis Cummins, Willie Poching, Jason Davidson and Aleks Gross aswell as all the First Team squad care aswell...