Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:33 am  

I truly can't understand the pessimism on this thread. We are averaging 50 points a game at home, conceding on average less then 16 points a game and playing in some terrible conditions.

We don't actually need to get out of 2nd gear, and when the team needs to i.e in a reaction to a team getting at us we are blowing teams away.

The game is allowed to be slower at this level and we are most effective with quick play the balls, super league refs will allow for quicker play the balls and give us a chance to get a roll on.

No point in going 100% every single game and burning out come business end. We are clearly going to walk this league to may as well experiment and try different things while we can until things heat up and get exciting.

Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:53 am  

mean_machine wrote:

I truly can't understand the pessimism on this thread. We are averaging 50 points a game at home, conceding on average less then 16 points a game and playing in some terrible conditions.

We don't actually need to get out of 2nd gear, and when the team needs to i.e in a reaction to a team getting at us we are blowing teams away.

The game is allowed to be slower at this level and we are most effective with quick play the balls, super league refs will allow for quicker play the balls and give us a chance to get a roll on.

No point in going 100% every single game and burning out come business end. We are clearly going to walk this league to may as well experiment and try different things while we can until things heat up and get exciting.

I agree to a point. My one worry is that we won't be tested until it really matters. At the moment when we are poor we are still more or less on top and when we look ok we're blowing teams away. I'm hoping that doesn't breed either complacency, instill bad habits or not show us were we really are. Not sure how we solve that issue as the next game could potentially be the biggest blow out yet.

I'm expecting Fev and Toulouse away to be bigger challenges but I think a decent cup run and a draw at a middle to low end SL team could be our best bet

Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:25 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

Sheens said post match that he as good as drew a straw today to rest either Moss or Shaw and Moss lost out. Part of his rotation strategy to get minutes into some players in the absence of a reserve comp allegedly. He won't send them out on loan either. Perhaps the aim was also to get starting minutes and game time into Cockayne to assess his suitability to start in future. Next week, he says Shaw will make way for Moss apparently. Reckon Quinlan could be rested to make way for Moss at FB in the CC game in a fortnight.

Sheens obviously rates Charlie as the best winger then, if he wasn't part of the coin toss?

Moss for Shaw makes sense, that right edge in the first half was breached twice.

Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:49 pm  

[quote="fun time frankie" I really don't rate Mulhearn[/quote]

Can you add further why you really don't rate him? he is for me a very good runner of the ball, makes bags of yards, is very good in defence and makes a good impact off the bench, like someone previously said, he changed the tone of the game when coming off the bench against Sheffield.

if you can quote statistics to prove me wrong then I will stand corrected (said the man in the orthopedic shoes!)

Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:22 pm  

robinrovers10 wrote:

Can you add further why you really don't rate him? he is for me a very good runner of the ball, makes bags of yards, is very good in defence and makes a good impact off the bench, like someone previously said, he changed the tone of the game when coming off the bench against Sheffield.

if you can quote statistics to prove me wrong then I will stand corrected (said the man in the orthopedic shoes!)

Every time I watch him he seems to me to make no impact at all I seem to be in the minority on this so I'll take a good look at the next game

Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:43 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

Every time I watch him he seems to me to make no impact at all I seem to be in the minority on this so I'll take a good look at the next game

We have played 5 matches. I presume you and roverswall have both been present on at least some occasions. I agree with him. You have obviously been watching Mulhern to make the statement that he makes no impact at all. It just goes to show how we can physically see the same thing but mentally interpret it in different ways.

Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:05 pm  

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Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:26 pm  

Pickering Red wrote: I have the perfect solution for you in this regard. Click on link below: https://www.specsavers.co.uk/offers/2-for-1 For the record I've been to all 5 games this season and didn't even realise we'd signed the new Sam Burgess Mulhearn reminds me of the fat kid at school who you just used to give the ball to and he'd run through the opposition now that worked in u10s u11s u12s and u13s but after that they became less effective until they didn't get in the team anymore

Pickering Red wrote: I have the perfect solution for you in this regard. Click on link below: https://www.specsavers.co.uk/offers/2-for-1 For the record I've been to all 5 games this season and didn't even realise we'd signed the new Sam Burgess Mulhearn reminds me of the fat kid at school who you just used to give the ball to and he'd run through the opposition now that worked in u10s u11s u12s and u13s but after that they became less effective until they didn't get in the team anymore

Re: Changes for Sunday : Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:03 pm  

I'm not sure what point your trying to make here Frankie, but this season I have seen a big improvement in Robbie Mulhearn over last in impact and contribution terms.

I have just watched the Sheffield game in full again on Hull KR.TV today as I'm a bit of a Saddo like that. It gives an alternative side on perspective of the same game that I can't get when I watch it from behind or in front on a Sunday. You see things differently like who misses tackles and who is greedy by not passing. You can see offside and study ruck infringements and wonder why we don't compete better for high balls.

Again for me, Mulhearn had a good game and was a good impact forward once again off the bench. Compared to Horne and Salter he looked different class but not as good as Scruton, who has been a welcome revelation.

Also Bobby Blair put a huge and effective defensive stint in and made a few long yardage carries, so perhaps can't understand why people (including me) are on his case this year.

Re: Changes for Sunday : Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:29 am  

Pickering Red wrote:

I'm not sure what point your trying to make here Frankie, but this season I have seen a big improvement in Robbie Mulhearn over last in impact and contribution terms.

I have just watched the Sheffield game in full again on Hull KR.TV today as I'm a bit of a Saddo like that. It gives an alternative side on perspective of the same game that I can't get when I watch it from behind or in front on a Sunday. You see things differently like who misses tackles and who is greedy by not passing. You can see offside and study ruck infringements and wonder why we don't compete better for high balls.

Again for me, Mulhearn had a good game and was a good impact forward once again off the bench. Compared to Horne and Salter he looked different class but not as good as Scruton, who has been a welcome revelation.

Also Bobby Blair put a huge and effective defensive stint in and made a few long yardage carries, so perhaps can't understand why people (including me) are on his case this year.

Exactly people see things differently most have said Blair wasn't performing I said he'd been solid which you have just mentioned like I said I'll watch Mulhearn closely next game