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Re: And so it begins..... : Sat May 19, 2012 1:36 pm  
Edith wrote:
A little bitter there, Larry, surprised you even support the club any more, what with him being a current club president and all.

My first Rovers game was at Wembley in 1997, I was 14 and didn't really want to go, a whole ten years before Superleague.

Oh, and by the way, I just had a little look at the history and it doesn't mention Colin Hutton doing any of the above, I'm not saying it didn't happen but just pointing out that we're not all as old as the houses and there appears to be no evidence other than hearsay.


He's right.
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sat May 19, 2012 1:41 pm  
Sandra The Terrorist wrote:
He's right.

Yeah, In part, telling someone to read up on the history when it mentions no such thing is a little stupid, though.

We've all heard the stories. The way the history reads, Hull KR weren't really pulling up any trees until Colin Hutton got involved and he's bigged up as being involved in the most successful period in Hull KR's early existence.

He's a great bloke is Colin.
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sat May 19, 2012 2:05 pm  
Some of us where at the shareholders meeting when it was rail-roaded through...a fait accompli if ever there was one...and it was 1988 and i was in my early 20,s so not exactly "as old as the houses"..

Its true many speak highly of Colin and he is very much a "gent" , however that decision set the club back incalculably...and should never be "rewarded"...

And the truth of the matter is that while Colin did have a little success as coach back in the 60's he took over Rovers chairmanship when we were already a top club with everything on a plate for him, he basked in the glory of the 80's great team and then pretty much oversaw the destruction of everything that had been built up...and we are still struggling because of his misguided, some say self interested, decisions...

But i suppose because hes a "great bloke" we can just write off 20 years as one of those things, forget about the subsequent millions of pounds it has cost the club (and individuals) and yeah lets name a stand after him...why not?
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sat May 19, 2012 2:11 pm  
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Some of us where at the shareholders meeting when it was rail-roaded through...a fait accompli if ever there was one...and it was 1988 and i was in my early 20,s so not exactly "as old as the houses"..

Its true many speak highly of Colin and he is very much a "gent" , however that decision set the club back incalculably...and should never be "rewarded"...

And the truth of the matter is that while Colin did have a little success as coach back in the 60's he took over Rovers chairmanship when we were already a top club with everything on a plate for him, he basked in the glory of the 80's great team and then pretty much oversaw the destruction of everything that had been built up...and we are still struggling because of his misguided, some say self interested, decisions...

But i suppose because hes a "great bloke" we can just write off 20 years as one of those things, forget about the subsequent millions of pounds it has cost the club (and individuals) and yeah lets name a stand after him...why not?

My house was built in 1965, not a bad guess at your age, was it?

When did Colin take over chairmanship? Straight after his tenure as coach? I struggle to see how he took over a "top club with everything on a plate for him", Wasn't HKR being a top club, in part, due to his tenure as coach?
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sat May 19, 2012 2:27 pm  
Let's just call it the 'david hoskins' stand.
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sat May 19, 2012 2:46 pm  
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AS, your update yesterday seemed to be placing doubt over the project which is why I reacted.
No it didn't.
The words I used were 'Hold up' which doesn't mean the project is in doubt now if I had said 'Risk to the project' then you would be correct fortunatly those were not the words I used.

Paul T - HKR wrote:
In answer to your Q about the project not being signed off as far as I know this is common practice; amendments to the final design etc are a work in progress. However, the main thing is the funding is in place.
Perhaps you could tell the builders this as some of them seemed totally perplexed and a little quizical about the whole issue.

Paul T - HKR wrote:
As for the lack of publicity, I think Mrs B is right. After so many false dawns the fact that the webcam is in place seems to suffice. Mind you, it won't surprise me if we don't see Hudge et al and Smithy donning their hard hats to lay a foundational brick when they get to that stage lol!
So after lots of false dawns we actually start something and just fail to mention it yeah I can totally see the logic there!!.

You had a go at me by claiming my post placed doubt over the build and yet you are now advocating us not mentioning it.
Exactly why that is the case is puzzling when even the most pesimistic of us fail to think it is now not going to be built unless of course you are having doubts yourself.
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sun May 20, 2012 9:05 am  
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No it didn't.
The words I used were 'Hold up' which doesn't mean the project is in doubt now if I had said 'Risk to the project' then you would be correct fortunatly those were not the words I used.

Perhaps you could tell the builders this as some of them seemed totally perplexed and a little quizical about the whole issue.

So after lots of false dawns we actually start something and just fail to mention it yeah I can totally see the logic there!!.

You had a go at me by claiming my post placed doubt over the build and yet you are now advocating us not mentioning it.
Exactly why that is the case is puzzling when even the most pesimistic of us fail to think it is now not going to be built unless of course you are having doubts yourself.



No doubts from me, none at all.
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sun May 20, 2012 10:29 am  
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Perhaps you could tell the builders this as some of them seemed totally perplexed and a little quizical about the whole issue.



The builders I deal with in my office at work seem that way about most things tbh.
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sun May 20, 2012 11:06 am  
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The builders I deal with in my office at work seem that way about most things tbh.

dont slag the builders off there the real experts not you sat in office sorting your paperwork out pretending your important {im a builder / joiner by the way }
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Re: And so it begins..... : Sun May 20, 2012 11:52 am  
fun time frankie wrote:
dont slag the builders off there the real experts not you sat in office sorting your paperwork out pretending your important {im a builder / joiner by the way }


I'd say the Engineers and Architects are the real experts, but a lot of them haven't got a clue either.

I'm actually sat in the office doing CAD and pretending i'm important btw :)
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