Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:33 pm  

Zook Ema's Hose wrote:

I have to agree with that. I was extremely confident we would not even be in the MPG and that was with Campese, Kelly, Sio, Walker, Mantellato, Green, Thornley, Allgood and Larroyer. All of these Super League calibre. To say we can lose them all, replace with players from Bradford, Wakefield, Doncaster and 4th choice halves from Hull and Huddersfield and just have to turn up with a couple of new players available mid season to secure promotion is delusional. I find it strange that my confidence with last year’s far higher quality roster was mocked yet some are thinking promotion will be straightforward. Fortunately Sheens should have some pulling power but the mountain to climb is underestimated by a lot of fans.

Good post, totally agree. Good championship side, good enough to win promotion... Work your magic Mr Sheens.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:33 pm  

redmuzza wrote:

Good post, totally agree. Good championship side, good enough to win promotion... Work your magic Mr Sheens.

Zook Ema's Hose wrote this post a while ago. Whilst it's not a bad post by his standards, it unfairly distorts the perceived comparisons between his Hull KR team of last year, comprising the so called departed "superstars" he mentions and the team of 2017 and its newly arrived replacements minus the new Aussies. He is already dismissing and disrespecting these new arrivals as substandard, having never seen them perform under a new proven, world-class coach in their new team colours.

He was rightly pilloried on here for being delusionally over optimistic on our chances in the middle 8s last year when he intimated we would breeze it, provided we just turned up. Problem was we didn't turn up and the rest is history. Also Campese, Kelly, Larroyer and Green didn't turn up for us in the middle 8s for various identifiable reasons as well.

Now he has lurched unsurprisingly to the other end of the spectrum and is the new prophet of doom.

The problem is he doesn't understand the psyche of most Rovers fans. We are conditioned to disappointment and battle hardened to under achievement, especially during this decade.

Given a new approach and a fresh dose of sanguine reconstruction on the field this year, we are right to look forward for now with some optimism to this season. Taking automatic promotion as a given, no way.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:47 am  

The Championship has improved dramatically,both financially and competitively.As a squad you have proven players who will meet some of the best unproven players.What worked in SL for the proven players,wont carry in the championship..

You will take a beating,you wont walk it,you will complain.How thats dealt with is where you end up.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:51 am  

atomic wrote:

The Championship has improved dramatically,both financially and competitively.As a squad you have proven players who will meet some of the best unproven players.What worked in SL for the proven players,wont carry in the championship..

You will take a beating,you wont walk it,you will complain.How thats dealt with is where you end up.

How could you possibly know all those things

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:53 pm  

Well have plenty of salary cap left over for the middle eights by the looks of it but will we have any quota spots free, does anyone know how many quota places you get and how many we've filled?

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:19 pm  

We get the same allowance as sl sides apparently I can only think of 5 we have used?

[Mild Rover]

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:33 pm  

bishops finger wrote:

Well have plenty of salary cap left over for the middle eights by the looks of it but will we have any quota spots free, does anyone know how many quota places you get and how many we've filled?

It's a bit more complicated than 'just 7', but for simplicity's sake I'm going to say 7.

We have Blair, Tilse, Clark, Heffernan, Quinlan and Butler-Fleming. There's been rumours of an antipodean prop as well, which'd fill the quota up.*

*Exceptions and vagueries apply.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:26 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

It's a bit more complicated than 'just 7', but for simplicity's sake I'm going to say 7.

We have Blair, Tilse, Clark, Heffernan, Quinlan and Butler-Fleming. There's been rumours of an antipodean prop as well, which'd fill the quota up.*

*Exceptions and vagueries apply.

So if say we sign Shillington, then come the middle 8's I'd guess we'd be looking at bringing in a few squad players from S/L sides, seems a strange way to go about it IMO, personally I'd rather have kept at least one quota spot available

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:43 pm  

Did tim sheen say we could sign 1 posts 2 on loan cos a few clubs have offered players that is why tim went to see cas

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:43 pm  

Where did this shillington rumour come from? Hala was obviously linked before hand I know they're different players but we would be pretty foolish to max out the quota before the 8s.....