Re: Albert Kelly injury : Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:05 pm  

speaking to an ex player this afternoon and he said Kelly has had a small op and they are hoping he may be fit in time for the final.
I don't know the ins and outs of the situation but I guess we will know more over the next few days.

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:49 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

I heard the Chezzie answer to the question on injuries and the - "will Albo be fit in 2 weeks time?" question, driving home from the game today. Classic media straight bat response technique. "I'm giving nowt away, just in case I end up with egg on my face."

Albert Kelly will play at Wembley - Fact!!! Whether 75% fit or not.

Let's face it, we need him and if you were in his position you wouldn't want to miss out on the Wembley occasion, probably the biggest showcase of his talent to date and the biggest game of his career to boot.

Surely, unless your part of his medical team and you know this to be absolutely true then this is actually just opinion until the event occurs? Or is it a case of putting 3 exclamation marks after the word "fact" means its indisputable?

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:53 pm  

If Kelly is even just 80% fit then it's got to be worth putting him in surely? Start with Kelly and Chisholm in the halves, move Blair to his best position, if it becomes apparent that Kelly has to come off then move Blair back to his current position. Only downside is we lose a rotation, but in a cup final I'm sure (or would at least hope) that adrenaline will make up for that. Plus, if he makes it through 60+ mins, then we haven't really lost a rotation anyway.

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:45 am  

I think the reason why Rovers are playing mind games over whether or not Kelly will play is due to the modern day concept of coaching. Today coaches have different game plans depending on who they are playing and the best way to deal with different styles of play and different individual players ......Keeping Leeds guessing on whether or not kelly will play causes them to focus on two different game plans instead of focusing all their attention on one.

Personally, I don't think it matters either way, but this is how modern day sport is technically coached so any disruption to preparations may give Rovers an advantage ......After all, we all know how Leeds are going to play (Fantastic free flowing rugby that is a joy to watch), but a Rovers team with Kelly in it or not in it have two very different styles of play ......Keep 'em guessing, Rovers!

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:46 am  

Geoff Tipps wrote:

I think the reason why Rovers are playing mind games over whether or not Kelly will play is due to the modern day concept of coaching. Today coaches have different game plans depending on who they are playing and the best way to deal with different styles of play and different individual players ......Keeping Leeds guessing on whether or not kelly will play causes them to focus on two different game plans instead of focusing all their attention on one.

Personally, I don't think it matters either way, but this is how modern day sport is technically coached so any disruption to preparations may give Rovers an advantage ......After all, we all know how Leeds are going to play (Fantastic free flowing rugby that is a joy to watch), but a Rovers team with Kelly in it or not in it have two very different styles of play ......Keep 'em guessing, Rovers!

I dont know if you are old enough to remember Gavin Miller in the 1986 final I do and a half fit g miller cost us the match so i do hope Kelley is fit and not carrying a injury

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:52 am  

He will play then have an op after . as I have said best case senerio for you guys. Of topic really liked your new record and nice to see all the kids there.

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:17 am  

cravenpark1 wrote:

I dont know if you are old enough to remember Gavin Miller in the 1986 final I do and a half fit g miller cost us the match so i do hope Kelley is fit and not carrying a injury

The key difference is that in that 86 final we were the favourites and so playing him was silly as we would have had enough if we had 13 fit bodies.

Against Leeds we are the underdogs and as such risking an 80% Kelly is something we have to try.

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:48 am  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

The key difference is that in that 86 final we were the favourites and so playing him was silly as we would have had enough if we had 13 fit bodies.

Against Leeds we are the underdogs and as such risking an 80% Kelly is something we have to try.

I still say no if not fit dont play if fit play what would happen if he broke down and was not then fit for the rest of the season is it worth the risk I dont think so

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:52 am  

REDEOD wrote:

Surely, unless your part of his medical team and you know this to be absolutely true then this is actually just opinion until the event occurs? Or is it a case of putting 3 exclamation marks after the word "fact" means its indisputable?

At the risk of seeming pedantic, it isn't actually undisputable unless typed in block capitals, FACT!!!

Re: Albert Kelly injury : Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:57 am  

cravenpark1 wrote:

I still say no if not fit dont play if fit play what would happen if he broke down and was not then fit for the rest of the season is it worth the risk I dont think so

Yes it is worth the rest of the season IMO. We can survive without Albert kelly in the 8s. However, we can't win the CC without him IMO.