Re: Widnes : Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:13 pm  

Davetherobin wrote:

I hope Carney does not get another contract with us he’s far to injury prone as good as he is on the pitch I’d rather see the over seas spot used some where else

Harsh.

He’s been rushed back to help the team and deserves more respect. However this probably tilts his mind further towards retirement at the end of the season.

When he’s played he has been top class for us this season, and having met the bloke I can confirm he is a genuinely decent kid.

Re: Widnes : Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:34 pm  

Awful game in suffocating conditions.

Justin Carney looks like 4 weeks off again. Lee injured during warm up Tomkins a late withdrawal.

We won and although the top 8 remains unlikely Salford need a miracle to catch us now so at least 4 home games in the qualifiers. Today was a timely reminder that any away game can be difficult that extra home game could be so important. Ourselves and Leigh are the only super 8 relegated teams both with just 3 home games.

I'm old enough to remember the start of Super League everyone played night matches during June/July/August to avoid the heat we haven't had a summer worthy of the name since so that was forgotten. This game was a reminder. It really would have been a higher quality game in cooler conditions.

Four Super League games unbeaten though, just 2 more to beat the record of Justin Morgan's 2009 top 4 team.

Re: Widnes : Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:00 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

Not in our hands.Will have to see if his mitigating circumstances cut him any slack? Unlikely imo. A real shame all round. What went wrong tonight?

Played the best side in the comp with a team half filled with kids. Pretty amazing we were winning with about 20 to go but they ran out of steam

Re: Widnes : Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:20 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Played the best side in the comp with a team half filled with kids. Pretty amazing we were winning with about 20 to go but they ran out of steam

by half you mean 4 -

Re: Widnes : Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:12 am  

rover 2000 wrote:

by half you mean 4 -

miloudi
logan
abdul
turgut
matongo
downs
lane

All young and with barely any SL experience. Good experience for them though

Re: Widnes : Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:12 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

What's happening with minns?

Joined Grandmaster Flash and The Furious 5 (now 6) apparently.

Re: Widnes : Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:05 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

miloudi
logan
abdul
turgut
matongo
downs
lane

All young and with barely any SL experience. Good experience for them though

miloudi hardly a kid at 25 although he does still get the odd backhander off radders for losing his ball I suppose when these players are all in together of course they will find it hard against the likes of saints , this is what happens when you load up the top end of your salary cap and they get injured you cant have it both ways.

Re: Widnes : Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:44 pm  

rover 2000 wrote:

miloudi hardly a kid at 25 although he does still get the odd backhander off radders for losing his ball I suppose when these players are all in together of course they will find it hard against the likes of saints , this is what happens when you load up the top end of your salary cap and they get injured you cant have it both ways .

See this is where I think F.C (and some other S.L teams) are coming unstuck. It was O.K for F.C to sign the likes of Kearney, Swain, Berrigan, Fitzgibbon, Sing, Blacklock and other oversees players who played 20+ caps for Australia because they were able to supplement the squad with GENUINE quality academy players who were on relative peanuts compared to the above mentioned (according to Josh Hodgson's recent article), players like Yeaman, Houghton, Washbrook, Cooke, Rich and Graeme Horne, Scott Wheeldon, Paul King etc.



If you compare to todays F.C squad list, barring Shaul (who is 26 now so not a youth) the gulf in difference is huge, they have nowhere near the quality to suppliment the huge earners in the squad.


Rovers had a lot of caching up to do from promotion in 2007, and i think we have more or less caught up with the majority of Super League in creating a conveyor belt for kids. We still need more in my opinion, but from what my 15 year old neigbour tells me Castleford are signing the cream of the crop in the East Riding district.

Re: Widnes : Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:02 pm  

Anyone else think rovers might pop into the loan market before the deadline? Probably need some cover in the backs

Re: Widnes : Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:38 pm  

rover 2000 wrote:

miloudi hardly a kid at 25 although he does still get the odd backhander off radders for losing his ball I suppose when these players are all in together of course they will find it hard against the likes of saints , this is what happens when you load up the top end of your salary cap and they get injured you cant have it both ways.

I guess when your first choice 17 isn't particularly good then you won't see much of a difference when you bring the reserves in but that's what you need to do to compete at the top of SL rather than scramble for survival at the bottom