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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:42 pm  
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Couldn't give a fig tbh. I've supported Rovers through thick and (mostly) extremely thin. I've been to Chorley Lynx, Whitehaven, and various places like that watching rovers. I've nothing to prove the likes of you.
My posts are a disappointment of most rovers fans seeing the glass half full after a season like we're having right now.
It needs fans like myself to have a different view to the airy fairy views that most seem to accept with rovers most years.

We've all been there watching 3rd division rugby 1-0 home defeats to barrow which makes me take a SL defeat and a poor performance with a pinch of salt I'd love to see the days of the early eighties again when I was a kid watching but it's not going to happen anytime soon
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:45 pm  
Hessle rover wrote:
Couldn't give a fig tbh. I've supported Rovers through thick and (mostly) extremely thin. I've been to Chorley Lynx, Whitehaven, and various places like that watching rovers. I've nothing to prove the likes of you.
My posts are a disappointment of most rovers fans seeing the glass half full after a season like we're having right now.
It needs fans like myself to have a different view to the airy fairy views that most seem to accept with rovers most years.


I agree with you, this is an awful season, but none of us are "better" fans than one another.

I stood behind some fifteen year old kids at Headingly last week and they were incredibly passionate about the club.

It's fine to say that people have "airy fairy" views, but what solutions are you offering?

You and I can't, unless we win the lottery, go mental and hugely invest in the club.

I know I'm not supplying and answers here, I just think it's a little more complex than saying evrything's wrong, we need to change everything. And I've deliberately over egged that phrase.
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:48 pm  
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I've just got back to Pick Your Ring 15 minutes before usual. Little or no traffic on the way back helped and leaving 10 minutes before the end was a revelation. It was unwatchable for me in the second half. I was embarrassed by our ineptitude. Just had to get out of the funeral parlour that was Craven Park tonight.

I can't make my mind up if we were so bad or Catalans were so brilliant.

After some deliberation I've finally decided. Good as Catalans were and they made it look effortless at times, we were a carbon copy of our preseason performances and our home game to Wakefield. This time we were generous in coughing up possession, slapdash in defence, had a guy playing winger who gifted our opposition 3 of the first 4 tries and we all seemed half hearted and short of ideas. Add in to the mix some dubious refereeing decisions against us and no luck at all on the night and the result was a foregone conclusion after 25 mins. We did well to get zero and Cats should have put over 50 on us.

I don't buy this 4 games in 12 days mullarkey, thin squad and lack of squad rotation opportunity as a series of mitigating factors for tonight. Same for most teams. We just didn't turn up. The first 4 tries were so soft, our heads dropped.

Kieran Dixon is a TOTAL liability. He is not learning and keeps making the same mistakes. No brain and no courage. We need to get rid of him.

Onwards and upwards to the Middle 8s. Bring on 2017.

I know people say it's the same for all teams but I disagree Leeds who lost all three Easter period games had probably the easiest fixtures we had a hard schedule on comparison which is why tonight went pretty much like I expected
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:52 pm  
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We've all been there watching 3rd division rugby 1-0 home defeats to barrow which makes me take a SL defeat and a poor performance with a pinch of salt I'd love to see the days of the early eighties again when I was a kid watching but it's not going to happen anytime soon

The eighties was a once in a lifetime period. But what we are going through right now isn't far off what we experienced in the early nineties. And we all know what happened after that period!
It needs fans to challenge other fans at least, not accepting the bog standard average that we are experiencing right now. Otherwise.....what's the point??Hell, we finished 4th comfortable once. What's gone wrong since those days!
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:01 pm  
Tilse MUST go. I've defended him occasioally but....

On average he makes 5 metres, apart from 2 or 3 runs.

He offloads once per game.

He makes 2 or 3 big tackles per game and then is ineffective/falls off the rest.

He played well in the middle 8s, but cannot face up to proper forwards in the SL. He is at best a championship level player. We seriously need to get rid as his attitude is affecting the others. We need a pack leader not a passenger
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:03 pm  
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Tilse MUST go. I've defended him occasioally but....

On average he makes 5 metres, apart from 2 or 3 runs.

He offloads once per game.

He makes 2 or 3 big tackles per game and then is ineffective/falls off the rest.

He played well in the middle 8s, but cannot face up to proper forwards in the SL. He is at best a championship level player. We seriously need to get rid as his attitude is affecting the others. We need a pack leader not a passenger

Who shall we sign then?
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:03 pm  
I'm not accepting of the status quo but sanguine regarding our current plight.

No knee jerk reactions from me yet. However, I predict along with most that we won't have too many ups this season and we will remain in the bottom 4, but we should go well in the middle 8s. We will survive in SL imo.

Before the split, we need to take a long look at some of our players and make some tough contractual decisions regarding their future and our ROI. No doubt, I will get Stan and others bouncing up and down saying I know nothing about sporting contracts. Tough commercial decisions are normal when needs must and there is no area where it acts as a 2 Way Street than in sport.

To the board and JP, get tough and get rid where necessary. Just do it.
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:04 pm  
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I agree with you, this is an awful season, but none of us are "better" fans than one another.

I stood behind some fifteen year old kids at Headingly last week and they were incredibly passionate about the club.

It's fine to say that people have "airy fairy" views, but what solutions are you offering?

You and I can't, unless we win the lottery, go mental and hugely invest in the club.

I know I'm not supplying and answers here, I just think it's a little more complex than saying evrything's wrong, we need to change everything. And I've deliberately over egged that phrase.

I'm not saying that one person is better than another, what I despair at is that we all (seem) to accept that what we watch at rovers is the 'norm'. Well i'll tell most of you.....it's bloody awful. The team of 2006 that beat wire in the Challenge cup quarters would muller us right now.
We've seen to of all been hypnotised that what we see is ok. Peacock hasn't shown his worth and the board have been as silent as I've ever known.
I'm just providing a different prospective to what some of you don't seem to get.
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:08 pm  
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I'm not saying that one person is better than another, what I despair at is that we all (seem) to accept that what we watch at rovers is the 'norm'. Well i'll tell most of you.....it's bloody awful. The team of 2006 that beat wire in the Challenge cup quarters would muller us right now.
We've seen to of all been hypnotised that what we see is ok. Peacock hasn't shown his worth and the board have been as silent as I've ever known.
I'm just providing a different prospective to what some of you don't seem to get.

What are you actually expecting Peacock to do?
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Re: Catalans game : Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:11 pm  
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What are you actually expecting Peacock to do?

He seems pretty good at promoting his reputation, and business acumen. But I'm at a loss of what he actually does at Rovers. Could you tell me??
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