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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:06 am  
The thing with Albert is that if his form doesn't improve, he won't get his gig in the NRL so he needs to show the form he did last year to make himself a viable prospect. Marsh is improving as a player but at this time would appear to lack the leadership skill needed in the halves
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:17 am  
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I hope he makes it. There's a player in there. Not convinced yet by a long way. His character appears his greatest weakness.
Harsh comparison but he's no Andy Gregory.
Recently saw the 3rd 1986 test v Australia. Gregory caught a kick off and sprinted 20 metres straight....straight mind you no deviating, no slowing straight at Mal Meninga and skittled him to the amusement and bemusement of the Aussie commentator.
Marsh needs to show some leadership at half. So far not a glimpse of it.

I'm sick of the constant xenophobia. The over seas players don't try etc whilst appalling performances by local players go by without comment.


I agree with most of that about Marsh, he definitely needs to grow some if he's going to make it. You could see his confidence drain when he missed the kick into touch. He needs to understand sh*t happens and forget it. Just look at Danny Brough, he'll kick the odd howler but it never stops him kicking the next one.
My view of Marsh is that his tactical kicking can be the best we have at the club, as I've said Kelly's kicking game is patchy at best. I really think Marsh's game will suit Websters coaching of a team that will be underdogs on Friday, I just hope he can instill the confidence needed.
I don't think Kelly isn't trying, he doesn't look fit at all which is the biggest worry, is that him being rushed back or just not looking after himself I don;t know. On the pitch though he puts a stint in but all HB's need a team around them to make the stuff they do come off, otherwise it just looks headless.
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:14 pm  
Let's be fair - Kelly was only rushed back for Wembley. He's pretty much had the same full pre season other players have had. Up to his injury this season he had the 2 friendly games and 3 competitive games under his belt. Somewhere between Dec and Feb Rovers/Kelly should have had enough time to address/or act on any potential fitness concerns. As fans we clearly only see a small fraction of all things players/coach relationships etc, but the difference we saw with Kelly pre Chester going and the snippet afterwards was tangible. It may not be a stretch to imagine things haven't been great behind the scenes.

Marsh being a young’un will always likely receive plenty of slack from fans at times. I think the best thing that happened to him on a few occasions on Sunday, was at times he was isolated/hit and forced to think on his feet. Too many times, I think his first and second thought process is to simply pass the ball/responsibility on, as others have also alluded to. Sink or swim philosophy needed.

As for Kelly playing or not playing on Friday …
If what we’ve been told is true, he hasn’t trained since the build up to Hudds away. You have to imagine he won’t be great, with just a day or two this week. I doubt he has much fitness in the bank to really fall back on, so in a way he’ll be in a worse fitness state than pre St Helens game (in theory). To get the best out of Kelly, he needs to put himself about/run around- be Albert Kelly trying everything and anything. Physically is he (will he be) in a position to do that? I’m not even sure James Webster knows. The tone in which Webbo spoke about the issue on RH, sounded very disheartened by it all tbh. There wasn’t much definitive about the situation/injury. “Kelly made the call Hudds game / he may have a reoccurrence / see how he is next week/not sure”

Kelly won’t be risked … or nailed on Kelly man of the match then …?
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:58 pm  
As I've just posted on the dedicated Albert Kelly topic on here. There are pictures of him on the club website with the other lads on the pitch at today's training session. He looks happy and much trimmer than 4 games ago against Saints.
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:10 pm  
If anybody watched the latest SLS on BBC this week, our pack had big wraps in quotes by studio guests, Mark Flanagan of Salford and Kevin Brown of Widnes.

The nub was that Salford were bullied by our BIG and aggressive pack this week according to Flanagan, whilst Brown concurred that our pack was BIG and aggressive and
made easy metres and caused Widnes a lot of problems the other week.

Insider information working in our favour. Being able to field 6 props, 2 of whom in Allgood and Greenwood are mobile when assigned to the back row is a massive boost at the moment.
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:15 pm  
Sorry, guys and gals for a lot of my posts in quick succession.

Kelly is named in the 19 man derby squad. Greenwood and Horne too. Still no Lunt.
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:07 pm  
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If anybody watched the latest SLS on BBC this week, our pack had big wraps in quotes by studio guests, Mark Flanagan of Salford and Kevin Brown of Widnes.

The nub was that Salford were bullied by our BIG and aggressive pack this week according to Flanagan, whilst Brown concurred that our pack was BIG and aggressive and
made easy metres and caused Widnes a lot of problems the other week.

Insider information working in our favour. Being able to field 6 props, 2 of whom in Allgood and Greenwood are mobile when assigned to the back row is a massive boost at the moment.

The both actually said we had a massive pack
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:25 pm  
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They both actually said we had a massive pack

You've just unwittingly redefined the word, PRAT. :D
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:38 pm  
They also said that we had a great team, so I wouldn't take much notice of their opinion!!
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Re: Derby week: we avin a go? : Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:51 am  
Hey Rovers Buddies,

I am planing on meeting a couple of Rovers fans after the game, where is the main bar at Rovers and do you need to be a member or get signed in?

Good luck for Monday

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