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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Saving yourselves for next week's cup final'"
I think you mean yours, Rolfie.
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| Quote roversmad="roversmad"Symbolic defence? That's a new one.'"
Exactly right, albeit by accident.
Definition of symbolic defence is - "A new style of Rugby League underperformance as perfected by the Hull KR sides of coach Sandercock and continued by his understudy coach Chester."
The key differentiator between this defensive alignment and those deployed by other SL teams is that it usually allows 3 opposition tries per half minimum without response from the Hull KR attack. This form of defence allows the Hull KR team to assess the speed and intensity of the game, before they begin belatedly to up their game and play to somewhere near their potential.
Not to be confused with shambolic defence, which most commentators and spectators would also associate with the same team.
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| Quote Pickering Red="Pickering Red"Exactly right, albeit by accident.
Definition of symbolic defence is - "A new style of Rugby League underperformance as perfected by the Hull KR sides of coach Sandercock and continued by his understudy coach Chester."
The key differentiator between this defensive alignment and those deployed by other SL teams is that it usually allows 3 opposition tries per half minimum without response from the Hull KR attack. This form of defence allows the Hull KR team to assess the speed and intensity of the game, before they begin belatedly to up their game and play to somewhere near their potential.
Not to be confused with shambolic defence, which most commentators and spectators would also associate with the same team.'"

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| Quote Pickering Red="Pickering Red"Exactly right, albeit by accident.
Definition of symbolic defence is - "A new style of Rugby League underperformance as perfected by the Hull KR sides of coach Sandercock and continued by his understudy coach Chester."
The key differentiator between this defensive alignment and those deployed by other SL teams is that it usually allows 3 opposition tries per half minimum without response from the Hull KR attack. This form of defence allows the Hull KR team to assess the speed and intensity of the game, before they begin belatedly to up their game and play to somewhere near their potential.
Not to be confused with shambolic defence, which most commentators and spectators would also associate with the same team.'"
That's a very good description PR. Unfortunately very close to the mark.
This really isn't panic time yet, but boy you can understand why people are. If it was a different form of crap then at least they worked on something new in the off season.
To find the same problems but seemingly even worse this pre-season, fans are understandably worried.
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| got to say looking at your recruits I can not see them improving your defence all good young signings with promise but if they where that good would Leeds have let them go it appears like Peacock giving jobs to the Boys, you seem to lack grunt up front and any real line breaking back rows your half's are quality that's your only real strength interesting that league express predicts you will finish bottom surly its not looking that bleak ?
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| Quote fc-eaststander="fc-eaststander"got to say looking at your recruits I can not see them improving your defence all good young signings with promise but if they where that good would Leeds have let them go it appears like Peacock giving jobs to the Boys, you seem to lack grunt up front and any real line breaking back rows your half's are quality that's your only real strength interesting that league express predicts you will finish bottom surly its not looking that bleak ?'"
Don't worry yourself.
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| Quote roversmad="roversmad"Don't worry yourself.'"
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| Quote fc-eaststander="fc-eaststander"I wont
you can do it for me'"
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| I was very impressed with the Danny Brough show; he dominated the middle of the park and made it look all too easy.
Pity about Larroyers injury he doesn't have much luck in the trials does he.
Plenty to work on but thats why trial games are played, but have to agree with the consensus on here - poor defence is a real concern.
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| Reading all the threads on hear because were i live i would never go to a friendly I think its down to the coaching staff when we gave Chester the job I thought it was a mistake still do
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| Its a real difficult one for me, I'm telling myself its only a friendly and the team aren't up to speed yet but, ands its a Kim Kardashian sized but, this game looked like it could have been played a week after the regular season. Same failings and same team shape.
It does make you wonder that if we all, and it really is us all, can see that the 2nd row is light, we need an impact prop and we need to add more steel in defence then how come nothing seems to have been done about it.
Although I hate to agree with a B&W, the guy who posted above hit the nail on the head with the new signings not adding to the defence. Non of these are known to be hard hitting defenders. Long season ahead I'm afraid.
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| Thought green was outstanding,greenwood,walker and mulhearn played pretty well but they were the only plus points for me.I think the performance of marsh just enforces my point that without campese pulling the strings we are clueless.Even more reason for us to have done something about the halfback situation.Finally I know it was only a friendly but to conceed that many points again makes me wonder how willie poching kept his job as defensive coach,our defence is pathetic and I dont see who or what is going to change it.
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