Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:05 am  

Binosh wrote:

There is a reason they are both in the championship, KR are paying Ellis a massive wedge for a 1 year loan deal after Stone said he was free to go, Abdull was on loan at Fev and Ridyard schooled him in every aspect.

The KR team looks very competitive but I don't think Abdull & Ellis are anywhere near Mellor, Drinkwater, Ridyard, Hampshire or Reynolds.

Leigh were offered Ellis & turned him down.

Hampshire and Reynolds are both average ridyard looks good let's see how him and drinkwater go in SL because Abdul and Ellis have actually played there

[Mild Rover]

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:34 am  

For me, Sio is a big if inevitable loss. We'll miss Walker too, and I expect him to go well at Saints.

Despite their talent it was a relief to see the Campese, Kelly and Dixon depart, because of injuries, attitude and unreliability respectively - and budgetary expense it all cases.

The likes of Thornley and Allgood will likely do okay in SL and would have probably have excelled for us in the Championship. But there was a need to move on and to find better value.

I think we've improved our depth, and for the first time in some time have been proactive, rather than waiting to see who is available. I'm still coming to terms with us trying to bridge the gap to other SL packs by signing only Clarkson and Mulhern. Obviously circumstances and needs were different this time around.

With Sheens in charge it feels more coherent and focused on what is important. Chester's innovative pre-season, Webster's interim status and Peacock's long-term focus can be consigned to history.

Ateotd it looks like a superb Championship squad. It should definitely make the middle 8s. With decent depth we should go into those games fresh and with some confidence. To get past even bottom 4 SL teams we'll need to raise our intensity and be more than the sum of our parts. Maybe make a couple more signings, too. A couple of SL teams do look vulnerable though.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:40 pm  

IMO:

Ken Sio > Adam Quinlan
Iain Thornley > Jake Butler-Fleming
Kieron Dixon = Kieron Moss
Josh Mantellato > Andrew Heffernan
Terry Campese > Jordan Abdull
Albert Kelly > Jamie Ellis
Adam Walker > Nick Scruton
Dane Tilse < Mitch Clark
John Boubebza v ???
James Green > George Milton
Kevin Larroyer v ???
Mitch Allgood = Danny Addy

James Webster < Tim Sheens

Does look like a very good squad for the Championship though. Crunch time will be at the end of the season, IMO the halves aren't good enough to get us promoted and we'll need more grunt in the pack.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:55 pm  

rebelrobin wrote:

I forgot we have other options at hb with Blair/Quinlan. Then moss at fb. Just wondered when Kr go to Tenerife warm weather training is it after Leeds game. Cos I have a feeling shillington maybe there with them by then

According to '5th Tackle', Sheens has talked Shillington out of retiring, but there have been so many names mentioned by Sheens - Shillington, Hala, Page - I've given up speculating. IMO any one of these three would go well in the Championship.

I believe Rovers fly to warm weather training after Ryan Hall's testimonial.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:37 pm  

rebelrobin wrote:

I forgot we have other options at hb with Blair/Quinlan. Then moss at fb. Just wondered when Kr go to Tenerife warm weather training is it after Leeds game. Cos I have a feeling shillington maybe there with them by then

I think I read somewhere that Shillington has retired

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:21 pm  

Binosh wrote:

There is a reason they are both in the championship, KR are paying Ellis a massive wedge for a 1 year loan deal after Stone said he was free to go, Abdull was on loan at Fev and Ridyard schooled him in every aspect.

The KR team looks very competitive but I don't think Abdull & Ellis are anywhere near Mellor, Drinkwater, Ridyard, Hampshire or Reynolds.

Leigh were offered Ellis & turned him down.

Your argument doesn't make sense, you are saying that Abdul and Ellis aren't as good as the Leigh halfbacks because they currently play in the championship, where have Ridyard, Drinkwater and Reynolds played most of their careers? None are tested in SL and you have to ask why they haven't been signed by SL clubs in the past.

How do you know how much Rovers are paying Ellis, maybe that's why Leigh choose not to sign him, rather than based in his ability.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:18 pm  

I agree with him..that's how I see it at present.but I also can see others optimism in abdull ellis. Would rather had Marsh than abdull in half's I'd go so far to say I don't think abdull is good enough for a team with our aims.unless in pack where we are rich in back row.waste on salary cap imo

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:28 pm  

Binosh wrote:

Abdull was on loan at Fev and Ridyard schooled him in every aspect.

Ridyard didn't "school" Abdull because Abdull didn't play in any of Fev's three games against Leigh.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:31 pm  

It does make sense if read as a balanced opinion including some actual facts and not a put down to Hull KR.

They are BOTH in the champ for a reason, the reason is their parent SL clubs are unwilling to start the 2017 season with them in their squads. Both have question marks over fitness & weight.

Mellor is a quality proven SL half and is a starting half at Widnes, Drinkwater is proven at SL & NRL, Reynolds played 5 SL games as a 17 year old at Cas, Hampshire has been in SL most of his career and Ridyard is unproven at that level but is certainly one to watch for, see Gary Schofields published thoughts on him.

Anyway this is a an internet based RL opinion forum and not a crystal ball, I will keep popping back throughout the season and see how your new duo are getting on and what KR fans opinions of them are.

I actually really rate Marsh.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:43 pm  

I'd rather bring on Marsh than some one else's project.Marsh has had some stand out games Widnes away sticks out for me and some bang average games.par for course for a young half.he actually looked well at fullback when put there but seeing as we now have 5, 2 of which are imports he won't get a run there.not sure how long his injury is due to last think fairly bad one?but if fit I'd rather see Marsh /Ellis than the unit