Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:12 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

I've missed Zod, still a plank.

What's the matter?

You just realised that most of your signings might fit in well at the Derby and Joan club?

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:20 pm  

General Zod. wrote:

What's the matter?

You just realised that most of your signings might fit in well at the Derby and Joan club?

Not quite sure how Johnson, Crookes, Arundel, McDonnel and Holdsworth are less signings than Galea, Prince and Ellis but counting or making sense was never your strong point.

Enjoy your hangover in the morning.

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:21 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

I've missed Zod, still a plank.

O My Zod yes - double plank me thinks - but he loves his club nought wrong with that.

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:25 pm  

General Zod. wrote:

What's the matter?

You just realised that most of your signings might fit in well at the Derby and Joan club?

It's odd we finished 4 places and 11 points above you given your last point here. Finishing above us is very important, so you said. What on earth went wrong? Gentle still the poor relation to Sandercock?

General Zod. wrote:

Even though I'm absolutely buzzing that Sandercock has got the job, both Kidwell and Moore would have still been good appointments I reckon - certainly better options than a coach like Gentle recruited by a DOR with more wooden spoons than Delia Smith and as many bottom 4 finishes as your tin-pot club

Mcrea's recruited a coach seemingly on the grounds that he shares the same agent; a coach with questionable credentials detailed and backed up in "Hull Neutral's" knowledgeable post on Gentle.

Anything that keeps FC in their correct place; i.e. below us gets my vote petal..

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:28 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

Not quite sure how Johnson, Crookes, Arundel, McDonnel and Holdsworth are less signings than Galea, Prince and Ellis but counting or making sense was never your strong point.

Enjoy your hangover in the morning.

W T F are you on about?

Holdsworth is your best signing and all the above British signings are good considering the current market.

I just think the expectations of expecting Prince, Ellis and Galea to transform FC into some kind of Super League juggernaut is misguided IMO because no-one can deny that all three players at not the same players they were two years ago - all three are coming for a pension when all's said and done.

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:29 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Well, FC had by far the best of the derbies in 2012 with starring roles for the likes of Radford, Foster and McGoldrick against much stronger (on paper) Rovers sides, so it's clearly possible.

Sandercock is much better than Morgan according to Rovers fans consensus. All players on the roster will play with passion, aggression, pride. However much cash AP may be trying to splash, we can't buy these 2 competitive advantages.

Whoa there Starbucks (unless of course you pay tax?), you being a fact-based poster, I'm loving the thought of you pulling out this consensus you speak of. Is it one of your famous extrapolations, or do you have your finger on the pulse (or the bean)?

Sandercock's 1st 12 months have been less than Morgan's first 12 months, however that is an unfair comparison for a number of reasons. The next 12 will be a better judge.

Oh, and 2-1 is hardly "by far the better of" it's just 2-1.

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:32 pm  

General Zod. wrote:

W T F are you on about?

Holdsworth is your best signing and all the above British signings are good considering the current market.

I just think the expectations of expecting Prince, Ellis and Galea to transform FC into some kind of Super League juggernaut is misguided IMO because no-one can deny that all three players at not the same players they were two years ago - all three are coming for a pension when all's said and done.

With 14 players over 30 on show in the Grand Final, and Warrington, participants in both major finals this year ,offering extensions to players signifcantly over 30, why is this such a big deal?

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:37 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

It's odd we finished 4 places and 11 points above you given your last point here. Finishing above us is very important, so you said. What on earth went wrong? Gentle still the poor relation to Sandercock?

It's clear that Sandercock inherited a lot of issues from the Justin Morgan era who were part of Justin's "cosy club".

Sandercock had great success with a lot of players who improved out of sight - Hall, Salter, J Hodgson, etc. but there were quite a few who didn't like having to fight for their place in the team now that they weren't Justin's favourites.

Gentle has proved himself to be a good coach in fairly difficult circumstances but Sandercock has also done well despite pour 10th place finish - we've had 7 debutants from the academy, used 34 players and still managed to have the 6th best attack in the league.

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:38 pm  

SirStan wrote:

Whoa there Starbucks (unless of course you pay tax?), you being a fact-based poster, I'm loving the thought of you pulling out this consensus you speak of. Is it one of your famous extrapolations, or do you have your finger on the pulse (or the bean)?

Sandercock's 1st 12 months have been less than Morgan's first 12 months, however that is an unfair comparison for a number of reasons. The next 12 will be a better judge.

Oh, and 2-1 is hardly "by far the better of" it's just 2-1.

Are you saying Morgan is better than Sandercock? On t'other board Morgan had run his course and the majority believe Sandercock (who I think someone may have once mentioned coached Uate) is the dog's nads. Morgan is without portfolio currently I understand. Sandercock is at the helm of a club with "a richer backer than Lenegan at Wigan". Think it's clear who the winner is.

Re: plan B : Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:43 pm  

General Zod. wrote:

It's clear that Sandercock inherited a lot of issues from the Justin Morgan era who were part of Justin's "cosy club".

Sandercock had great success with a lot of players who improved out of sight - Hall, Salter, J Hodgson, etc. but there were quite a few who didn't like having to fight for their place in the team now that they weren't Justin's favourites.

Gentle has proved himself to be a good coach in fairly difficult circumstances but Sandercock has also done well despite pour 10th place finish - we've had 7 debutants from the academy, used 34 players and still managed to have the 6th best attack in the league.

Has Sandercock "done well"? You spent the full cap and finished 10th. Agar, whom you were less than complimentary about, delivered more with less At Wakefield in 2012. We could cherry pick some of Agar's stats from his FC tenure to show some positivity, but ATEOTD he was poor.