Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:09 am  

Ellis could have gone to bigger clubs but went with Hull because he wanted the extra year/s contract. No different

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:39 am  

craig hkr wrote: Ellis could have gone to bigger clubs but went with Hull because he wanted the extra year/s contract. No different hmm. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-FC.html "I was lucky to have a few clubs interested but I've been listening to Hull and to the ambition they have got and the bottom line for me was that it was a great time to be involved with Hull FC," said Ellis, who will take up a three-year deal in November.I said originally that I would maybe like to return to one of my old clubs or my home-town club in Castleford but, when I looked at it and thought about it more, I realised I still really wanted to win things and achieve things and I really believe I can do that at Hull FC." ... and

craig hkr wrote: Ellis could have gone to bigger clubs but went with Hull because he wanted the extra year/s contract. No different hmm. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-FC.html "I was lucky to have a few clubs interested but I've been listening to Hull and to the ambition they have got and the bottom line for me was that it was a great time to be involved with Hull FC," said Ellis, who will take up a three-year deal in November.I said originally that I would maybe like to return to one of my old clubs or my home-town club in Castleford but, when I looked at it and thought about it more, I realised I still really wanted to win things and achieve things and I really believe I can do that at Hull FC." ... and

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:51 am  

DGM wrote: hmm. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-FC.html "I was lucky to have a few clubs interested but I've been listening to Hull and to the ambition they have got and the bottom line for me was that it was a great time to be involved with Hull FC," said Ellis, who will take up a three-year deal in November.I said originally that I would maybe like to return to one of my old clubs or my home-town club in Castleford but, when I looked at it and thought about it more, I realised I still really wanted to win things and achieve things and I really believe I can do that at Hull FC." ... and He's not going to say i went to Hull because they offered me the best deal is he....

DGM wrote: hmm. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-FC.html "I was lucky to have a few clubs interested but I've been listening to Hull and to the ambition they have got and the bottom line for me was that it was a great time to be involved with Hull FC," said Ellis, who will take up a three-year deal in November.I said originally that I would maybe like to return to one of my old clubs or my home-town club in Castleford but, when I looked at it and thought about it more, I realised I still really wanted to win things and achieve things and I really believe I can do that at Hull FC." ... and He's not going to say i went to Hull because they offered me the best deal is he....

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:00 pm  

Salty mouse wrote:

He's not going to say i went to Hull because they offered me the best deal is he....

I've quoted you his specific reasons and he achieved them. Let's face it, at the time he could've got a 3-year deal pretty much anywhere in SL.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:39 pm  

DGM wrote:

I've quoted you his specific reasons and he achieved them. Let's face it, at the time he could've got a 3-year deal pretty much anywhere in SL.

Dodging the end of Gentle's reign and Radford's first faltering steps as a head coach. Possibly winning a Grand Final and back to back cups with Leeds. Bad decision whatever way you look at it.

You mentioned he was 30 when you signed him - I suppose that is possible if it was announced in spring 2012. But it was his 32nd birthday before he made his debut. And he turned 35 before he lifted the cup the first time.

Also, while I actually believe Gareth Ellis was completely sincere, it surely doesn't take a massive leap of empathy to realise that we might not always find Hull FC propaganda completely compelling evidence. Especially anything published in the hdm circa 2013, when the coverage became hilariously sycophantic.

Edit - just noticed it is the 'other' daily mail.

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:21 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Dodging the end of Gentle's reign and Radford's first faltering steps as a head coach. Possibly winning a Grand Final and back to back cups with Leeds. Bad decision whatever way you look at it.

You mentioned he was 30 when you signed him - I suppose that is possible if it was announced in spring 2012. But it was his 32nd birthday before he made his debut. And he turned 35 before he lifted the cup the first time.

Also, while I actually believe Gareth Ellis was completely sincere, it surely doesn't take a massive leap of empathy to realise that we might not always find Hull FC propaganda completely compelling evidence. Especially anything published in the hdm circa 2013, when the coverage became hilariously sycophantic.

Edit - just noticed it is the 'other' daily mail.

I must apologise for linking to "that" Daily Mail, I hate the rag, it was just the first search result I came across. No FC propaganda involved as I see you've now corrected, just quotes from the horses mouth. Who are we to refute what he says?

We announced Ellis had signed in March 2012 (aged 30). Debuted when he'd just turned 32, and his first deal expired at age 34.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:19 pm  

DGM wrote:

We announced Ellis had signed in March 2012 (aged 30). Debuted when he'd just turned 32, and his first deal expired at age 34.

I'd have let it pass if you hadn't earlier ticked McGuire's clock over to 'going to be 35'.

DM is 3 and a half years older on signing for Rovers than GE was on signing for Hull. By using different dates for the comparison, it can be stretched to look like 5, but equally squeezed to look like 2.

McGuire is a good player and professional, so I expect he'll be fully committed. Whether that'll be enough for him to make the sort of contribution we hope for only time will tell. In any case, I don't expect his arrival to be transformative like Ellis's was (eventually) at Hull. But if we can get organized, and put the right players around him, he certainly still has the class. Those are some big IFs, but Sheens inspires more confidence than his most recent predecessors.

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:03 pm  

If I could be arsed I'd trawl through articles from years ago and post the one were he said he chose Hull for the extra years contract.The trophy talk was just guff that no one believed.You spin things expertly and you got to post your little picture,Reminds me of someone? I think there is 1 person behind the same 2 or 3 posters on here.Just to clarify I couldn't care less what an FC fan thinks of Rovers and would rather not read it on here. I'm all for debate and don't always agree with fellow supporters views on KR but I'm sick of the sly digs and veiled insults from Lord haw haw. Bore off

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:15 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

If I could be arsed I'd trawl through articles from years ago and post the one were he said he chose Hull for the extra years contract.The trophy talk was just guff that no one believed.You spin things expertly and you got to post your little picture,Reminds me of someone? I think there is 1 person behind the same 2 or 3 posters on here.Just to clarify I couldn't care less what an FC fan thinks of Rovers and would rather not read it on here. I'm all for debate and don't always agree with fellow supporters views on KR but I'm sick of the sly digs and veiled insults from Lord haw haw. Bore off

The articles don't exist which is why you can't find them craigy

Re: Danny McGuire : Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:17 pm  

Eton st robin wrote:

Love this quote and now you're saying having a half back with medals is a bad thing

Learn to use the quote button properly. A half back with a lot of medals is an old thing