Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:56 pm  

Kelly is playing, according to him. "Yep. Don't want to be sitting on the sidelines for this one, mate", said smiling Albert, sprinting off without a trace of a limp.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:30 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

Kelly is playing, according to him. "Yep. Don't want to be sitting on the sidelines for this one, mate", said smiling Albert, sprinting off without a trace of a limp.

We know.

We always knew.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:46 pm  

Can't see CC picking this side but Imo it would have a decent chance, though hopefully the team he does pick can pull off a narrow win.

Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Horne
Sio
Chisholm
Kelly
Walker
Boudebza
Allgood
Blair
Puletua
McCarthy

Green
Tilse
Lunt
Larroyer/Donaldson?


Salter is a trier but he hasn't much go forward. Defensively good but against Moon I'm not sure.
Horne can tackle and can break the line and get Sio away as he did Dixon v Leigh.
Puletua in the second row, which he prefers, would help to take down the likes of Peacock, Luleai, Cutherbertson and Garbutt and slow them down a bit and would give us more go forward out wide with Larroyer/Donaldson spelling him 20 mins at a time. Maybe vulnerable with their quick centres I admit though. Having 5 props will make it interesting at least.
Chisholm hasn't been spectacular but has shown glimpses of what he can do, he has speed and is an out an out half back which Blair isn't who's much better in the 2nd row.
Chisholm could support Kelly so he's not trying to do it all himself, Leeds will target him and try and tire him out and Blair hasn't the pace to step in and be the type of player Kelly is.
Donaldson maybe instead of Larroyer who lifts the team when he comes on, he's our new Cockayne in my eyes, Cockaynes not the player he was but still decent for cover. 19th man for me.
A decent go forward side might get us on the front foot more often than not and give the backs some space and time.
Anyway that's wasted half hour of my time, Chester will no doubt pick Cockayne and Salter. And not Boudebza, Green or Chisholm.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:50 pm  

Kingston Rovers wrote:

Can't see CC picking this side but Imo it would have a decent chance, though hopefully the team he does pick can pull off a narrow win.

Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Horne
Sio
Chisholm
Kelly
Walker
Boudebza
Allgood
Blair
Puletua
McCarthy

Green
Tilse
Lunt
Larroyer/Donaldson?


Salter is a trier but he hasn't much go forward. Defensively good but against Moon I'm not sure.
Horne can tackle and can break the line and get Sio away as he did Dixon v Leigh.
Puletua in the second row, which he prefers, would help to take down the likes of Peacock, Luleai, Cutherbertson and Garbutt and slow them down a bit and would give us more go forward out wide with Larroyer/Donaldson spelling him 20 mins at a time. Maybe vulnerable with their quick centres I admit though. Having 5 props will make it interesting at least.
Chisholm hasn't been spectacular but has shown glimpses of what he can do, he has speed and is an out an out half back which Blair isn't who's much better in the 2nd row.
Chisholm could support Kelly so he's not trying to do it all himself, Leeds will target him and try and tire him out and Blair hasn't the pace to step in and be the type of player Kelly is.
Donaldson maybe instead of Larroyer who lifts the team when he comes on, he's our new Cockayne in my eyes, Cockaynes not the player he was but still decent for cover. 19th man for me.
A decent go forward side might get us on the front foot more often than not and give the backs some space and time.
Anyway that's wasted half hour of my time, Chester will no doubt pick Cockayne and Salter. And not Boudebza, Green or Chisholm.

Wouldn't of picked that myself. But, I like that team.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:51 pm  

Kingston Rovers wrote:

Can't see CC picking this side but Imo it would have a decent chance, though hopefully the team he does pick can pull off a narrow win.

Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Horne
Sio
Chisholm
Kelly
Walker
Boudebza
Allgood
Blair
Puletua
McCarthy

Green
Tilse
Lunt
Larroyer/Donaldson?


Salter is a trier but he hasn't much go forward. Defensively good but against Moon I'm not sure.
Horne can tackle and can break the line and get Sio away as he did Dixon v Leigh.
Puletua in the second row, which he prefers, would help to take down the likes of Peacock, Luleai, Cutherbertson and Garbutt and slow them down a bit and would give us more go forward out wide with Larroyer/Donaldson spelling him 20 mins at a time. Maybe vulnerable with their quick centres I admit though. Having 5 props will make it interesting at least.
Chisholm hasn't been spectacular but has shown glimpses of what he can do, he has speed and is an out an out half back which Blair isn't who's much better in the 2nd row.
Chisholm could support Kelly so he's not trying to do it all himself, Leeds will target him and try and tire him out and Blair hasn't the pace to step in and be the type of player Kelly is.
Donaldson maybe instead of Larroyer who lifts the team when he comes on, he's our new Cockayne in my eyes, Cockaynes not the player he was but still decent for cover. 19th man for me.
A decent go forward side might get us on the front foot more often than not and give the backs some space and time.
Anyway that's wasted half hour of my time, Chester will no doubt pick Cockayne and Salter. And not Boudebza, Green or Chisholm.

It's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

But Horne should be nowhere near the centre's unless we really have to do that, he's be murdered for footwork no matter which side he
played on.

Chisholm has done nothing, I'd love to play Blair in the second row but unfortunately he's going to have to play in the halves, even if Kelly doesn't make it, we'd be better going with Marsh.

Has nobody noticed that now we have our props back,Larroyer has been instructed to go back to his initial brief of wide running, looking to pull the oppositions centres in?

Re: 17 for Wembley : Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:07 am  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

Hoping the bigot pulls off 30 try saving tackles wont win it either.
Dixon's kick returns will massively improve our field position each set. He wins lots of penalties.
Most of super league want him in their side. Can't say the same of the bigot. He's had his moments this year but I'm afraid running around like a lunatic doesn't cut it for me. Lost patience with him years ago when we were in front at Cas in their 20. He gave away 3 pens and they scored. He's matured a bit and is a better player for it.
Got the mental age of a three year old now.

Seems like your disliking of BC is clouding your judgement on Dixon he isn't really that good either

Re: 17 for Wembley : Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:03 am  

Oafy wrote:

Seems like your disliking of BC is clouding your judgement on Dixon he isn't really that good either

Somebody's judgement is clouded.
Regardless of his bigotry he's a liability on the pitch and an average player full of errors. He can only dream of doing things Dixon can. When has the bigot been in the top ten try scorers....ever? Dixon makes defenders look foolish.
Don't be fooled by tub thumpers who run about hitting people. Apparent effort can hide a lack of ability.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:25 am  

Kingston Rovers wrote:

Can't see CC picking this side but Imo it would have a decent chance, though hopefully the team he does pick can pull off a narrow win.

Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Horne
Sio
Chisholm
Kelly
Walker
Boudebza
Allgood
Blair
Puletua
McCarthy

Green
Tilse
Lunt
Larroyer/Donaldson?


Salter is a trier but he hasn't much go forward. Defensively good but against Moon I'm not sure.
Horne can tackle and can break the line and get Sio away as he did Dixon v Leigh.
Puletua in the second row, which he prefers, would help to take down the likes of Peacock, Luleai, Cutherbertson and Garbutt and slow them down a bit and would give us more go forward out wide with Larroyer/Donaldson spelling him 20 mins at a time. Maybe vulnerable with their quick centres I admit though. Having 5 props will make it interesting at least.
Chisholm hasn't been spectacular but has shown glimpses of what he can do, he has speed and is an out an out half back which Blair isn't who's much better in the 2nd row.
Chisholm could support Kelly so he's not trying to do it all himself, Leeds will target him and try and tire him out and Blair hasn't the pace to step in and be the type of player Kelly is.
Donaldson maybe instead of Larroyer who lifts the team when he comes on, he's our new Cockayne in my eyes, Cockaynes not the player he was but still decent for cover. 19th man for me.
A decent go forward side might get us on the front foot more often than not and give the backs some space and time.
Anyway that's wasted half hour of my time, Chester will no doubt pick Cockayne and Salter. And not Boudebza, Green or Chisholm.

Obviously this is your opinion and you're entitled to it but IMO if Chester was to pick this team we may as well not bother getting on the bus this morning.
Horne is okay cover in the centres in a worst case scenario but he would get skinned all day long by Moon or Watkins. Same with Puletua, nowhere near the pace to deal with defending in that position. Imagine Puletua and Horne lining up next to each other in the line with Hardaker/Burrow/McGuire/Moon etc getting out from dummy half at them on the back of a quick PTB. We would be knackered.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:31 am  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

Somebody's judgement is clouded.
Regardless of his bigotry he's a liability on the pitch and an average player full of errors. He can only dream of doing things Dixon can. When has the bigot been in the top ten try scorers....ever? Dixon makes defenders look foolish.
Don't be fooled by tub thumpers who run about hitting people. Apparent effort can hide a lack of ability.

Other than the slightly embarrassing way that you insist on addressing him as 'the bigot', you're ignoring the impact that someone can have purely by firing up those around them. Cockayne gives the team a lift with the way he plays. IMO he isn't good enough to play in the 17 but disliking him is clouding your judgement about the gulf between him and Dixon, it's really not that great.
Yes Dixon terrifies defenders when he gets them squared up and he can be a match winner. Let's not lose sight of reality though, he's not Jaryd Hayne.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:26 am  

EL CAMO wrote:

Other than the slightly embarrassing way that you insist on addressing him as 'the bigot', you're ignoring the impact that someone can have purely by firing up those around them. Cockayne gives the team a lift with the way he plays. IMO he isn't good enough to play in the 17 but disliking him is clouding your judgement about the gulf between him and Dixon, it's really not that great.
Yes Dixon terrifies defenders when he gets them squared up and he can be a match winner. Let's not lose sight of reality though, he's not Jaryd Hayne.

Embarrassing calling him a bigot. He's not one then?
Often the people around him who he winds up are the opposition.
For how to inspire and fire people up see Campese not that oaf.
For embarrassing do you remember his Facebook postings. Being called what he is is not embarrassing. Embarrassing is chanting 'Charlie' after his every touch particularly after his return from..........a sacking.
He should be embarrassed looking Kelly Sio Dixon Stanley in the eye each time he meets them as well as all our other Aussie immigrants.