Re: Tim Sheens : Tue May 28, 2019 9:20 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

Some of the comments on here really baffle me, why should Tim Sheens age be anything but a plus? Why do people think a young man with a couple of years experience at a lower level & none at the top level be the answer? There are probably only two coaches with better records in the world & I don’t see Souths or Melbourne letting them rush to our aid. Nor do I see loads of world stars rushing to join our club, even if we could fit them under the cap!
A big dose of reality needs to be taken by some people.
We should be looking to appoint a coach that would be here for the next ten years that is the only way to build a club from the bottom up & attract good players who will stay for the long haul.

Own opinions I recon. A cracking CV ten years ago is great, its where we sit now, like we did last year....Another relegation battle.

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 1:44 pm  

Rubyred1 wrote:

Own opinions I recon. A cracking CV ten years ago is great, its where we sit now, like we did last year....Another relegation battle.

Similar to Brian Smith, just look at his CV yet when he came to Wakefield we only just escaped relegation. There are plenty of potential reasons tbh - Does Sheens have the hunger of an up and coming coach to succeed? The game is constantly evolving, he could be losing touch with the game itself?

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 2:36 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Similar to Brian Smith, just look at his CV yet when he came to Wakefield we only just escaped relegation. There are plenty of potential reasons tbh - Does Sheens have the hunger of an up and coming coach to succeed? The game is constantly evolving, he could be losing touch with the game itself?

Agreed. To be fair to the guy, he has had a Cracking career within Rugby League and is highly thought all across the world.....BUT, at 69 does he really want to be under pressure in this sport? or sat in Aus retired? I know what I would do.

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 3:25 pm  

I'm not saying Tim is the necessarily the right man going forward but I think a lot of the fan base (myself included at times) have lost some perspective.

Two years ago he assembled a squad from nothing and won promotion at the first time of asking through a very tough middle 8 mechanism.

One year ago he successfully kept us in SL.

This year may feel underwhelming given the optimism to start the year. But to suggest he is past it or out of touch is off the mark for me. Those achievements above are big and recent and could not be achieved by someone out of touch with the game today.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 4:38 pm  

StanTheMan6 wrote:

I'm not saying Tim is the necessarily the right man going forward but I think a lot of the fan base (myself included at times) have lost some perspective.

Two years ago he assembled a squad from nothing and won promotion at the first time of asking through a very tough middle 8 mechanism.

One year ago he successfully kept us in SL.

This year may feel underwhelming given the optimism to start the year. But to suggest he is past it or out of touch is off the mark for me. Those achievements above are big and recent and could not be achieved by someone out of touch with the game today.

Yeah, got to agree with that. I think some of the way we feel relates to stuff that predates him. We’re a bit weary of defeat and maybe irritable because of it. If he goes at season’s end he’ll do so with a lot of credit imo. It’d be diminished significantly if we go down - but to me it’d still feel like he’d undone a wrong. That 2016 relegation was just ‘wrong’ in so many ways, whereas this year we’re just a bit off the pace and a bit unlucky, and we ‘get’ that.

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 8:34 pm  

We were apalling in 1st half because Addy played. We were a different side in 2nd half when Atkin played.

If Sheens fields Addy again he should be sacked.

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 8:38 pm  

Gallanteer wrote:

We were apalling in 1st half because Addy played. We were a different side in 2nd half when Atkin played.

If Sheens fields Addy again he should be sacked.

Atkin created a bit of speed but some of his passing was woeful

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 8:55 pm  

To play that bad and almost win against one of the so called ‘fancied’ teams is a huge positive to take from that game. Don’t know what’s happened to addy, he looked NRL class when he played in the WC for Scotland against the worlds best, and I really don’t think that’s going over the top to say that. Just week in week out for his club he is a bit of a donkey, the amount of times he kills the play by trying to run from DH is so frustrating.

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 9:07 pm  

moxi1 wrote:

To play that bad and almost win against one of the so called ‘fancied’ teams is a huge positive to take from that game. Don’t know what’s happened to addy, he looked NRL class when he played in the WC for Scotland against the worlds best, and I really don’t think that’s going over the top to say that. Just week in week out for his club he is a bit of a donkey, the amount of times he kills the play by trying to run from DH is so frustrating.

Addy constantly trying to go from Dummy half with those 5 repeat sets against 11 men shows exactly why he should be dropped, permanently.

Atkin isn't perfect but has a better tactical brain. Addy just plays slow, dumb rugby.

Re: Tim Sheens : Fri May 31, 2019 9:19 pm  

moxi1 wrote:

To play that bad and almost win against one of the so called ‘fancied’ teams is a huge positive to take from that game. Don’t know what’s happened to addy, he looked NRL class when he played in the WC for Scotland against the worlds best, and I really don’t think that’s going over the top to say that. Just week in week out for his club he is a bit of a donkey, the amount of times he kills the play by trying to run from DH is so frustrating.

I agree. Problem is we can all see he isn't or ever will be a hooker. He and Lawler covering there doesn't work and everyone but Sheens sees that. T Lee isn't much better and whilst Lunt is certainly good enough he's always injured so lo and behold Atkin gets a decent run out and plays great considering he's hardly touched a ball in anger in months.Cant fault him for BMM try as like Pauli other week they ain't stopped that close in. Mulhearn again doesn't break a tackle and looks so slender for a prop. Saying all this the effort was there and few calls didn't go our way at important moments but that's par but the loss was sealed by going in 0-12 when we should have at least been level. Few positives in Hall Drinkwater Atkin.2nd half and more minutes into the returning players.All about staying up now.