[Mild Rover]

Re: Reserve team in 2017 : Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:40 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

I get the point of just packing the reserves with local amateurs being a waste of cash, I played A team when it was a drinking club for fringe players but then they were not allowed back in the amateur game. Now we could use a few who want a second go at making the grade along with some squad players & youngsters. The championship clubs will soon be able to spend more & will not want to bring on our lads, infact they will be signing our fringe players. The game as a whole needs more lads playing at all levels so encouraging players to return to amateur clubs to gain experiance knowing if they develope well there is a way back. There will always be the Shaun Edwards of this world who will be good enough at 17 but there is a need for foot soldiers to make up the teams around the stars.

I agree.

But I think championship clubs signing our fringe players is/would be generally a good thing for the sport, and those players. Better than the reserves concept, which feels like a way of keeping them as 'ours' rather than letting fly the nest to grow.

Now it might be asked 'If SL clubs don't see a direct benefit, why would they invest at all?', but then the money could be taken from them and redirected to the grassroots and/or RFL-run academies.

[Bullseye]

Re: Reserve team in 2017 : Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:32 am  

Reserve grade allows you to bring on your 19+ year olds that aren't ready in a quality environment you control. When you farm players out to other clubs they often don't get the best coaching and facilities, they feel unwanted, it breeds resentment in the dressing room of whichever club they're sent to. The fans of the championship club feel like they're just a feeder team and get disillusioned.

Duel reg to me is just a money saving exercise. A reserve grade will in the long term have great benefit for young players - especially forwards - not many props are mature at 19. In the short term it's a good way to ease injured players back so they're not going straight into the front line and a way for out of form players to regain confidence.

It's a win win. The only stumbling block is that it costs a few quid. Not huge amounts, maybe about £100k a year. I think it's pay for itself given time.

Re: Reserve team in 2017 : Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:05 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Reserve grade allows you to bring on your 19+ year olds that aren't ready in a quality environment you control. When you farm players out to other clubs they often don't get the best coaching and facilities, they feel unwanted, it breeds resentment in the dressing room of whichever club they're sent to. The fans of the championship club feel like they're just a feeder team and get disillusioned.

Duel reg to me is just a money saving exercise. A reserve grade will in the long term have great benefit for young players - especially forwards - not many props are mature at 19. In the short term it's a good way to ease injured players back so they're not going straight into the front line and a way for out of form players to regain confidence.

It's a win win. The only stumbling block is that it costs a few quid. Not huge amounts, maybe about £100k a year. I think it's pay for itself given time.

Bullseye,

I agree every SL club and aspiring Championship club should have to run a Reserve team, whether that is a 19s, an A-team, U23s or whatever. And let's do away with DR.

Re: Reserve team in 2017 : Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:55 pm  

FevGrinder wrote:

Bullseye,

I agree every SL club and aspiring Championship club should have to run a Reserve team, whether that is a 19s, an A-team, U23s or whatever. And let's do away with DR.

I agree with both you and Bullseye we should never have got rid of the A teams and if my memory is right did not both Hull and rovers want to put their A teams into the second division and they both had names for the teams but the RFL would not let them