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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:31 pm  
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Glad Dixon is playing on Sunday. Needs game time to prove his worth and restore his fragile confidence. However, if he has another mare on Sunday like Wembley, that could be the end of his contribution in a Rovers shirt this season. No pressure there, then.

Harsh on Cockayne, however, missing selection 2 games running. I think Horne and Larroyer are paying the price for extremely underwhelming and below par performances last week.

Is Tilse definitely on his way back to Oz then? I assume that's why he's "rotated" this week.

Finally, compare Leeds Rhinos right centre, Kallum Watkins, to our right centre, Liam Salter. Divisions apart in skill and creativity. Ken Sio's tryscoring effectiveness is suffering by having Salter inside him. I know he's homegrown, but he's not good enough for SL imo. Welham, despite his shortcomings, is more creative.

To be fair salter would have only been back up if goulding hadn't had to retire
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:57 am  
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It was a rumour from oz/newcastle that he was going back but gareth westmorland tweeted he had spoken to tilse and and he would be surprised if he went back as he is happy here


Well, that's just depresses me even more. He adds nothing of any value whatsoever. Marsh should play every remaining minute if this season, if Chisholm plays in front of him then we may as well give up.
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:11 am  
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Well, that's just depresses me even more. He adds nothing of any value whatsoever. Marsh should play every remaining minute if this season, if Chisholm plays in front of him then we may as well give up.

I have to agree with you about Tilse he has to be one of the worse players we have signed has for Marsh if possible play him on bench or wait till we know we are safe in super league that comes first for me
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:11 am  
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I have to agree with you about Tilse he has to be one of the worse players we have signed has for Marsh if possible play him on bench or wait till we know we are safe in super league that comes first for me


What a stupid comment, Tilse is nowhere near the worst player we have signed, you either have only recently began to attend matches or don't bother watching them. Tilse is a decent prop, who with some additions in the pack for 2016 will be a vital part of the squad
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:55 am  
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What a stupid comment, Tilse is nowhere near the worst player we have signed, you either have only recently began to attend matches or don't bother watching them. Tilse is a decent prop, who with some additions in the pack for 2016 will be a vital part of the squad


It's not a stupid comment, it's his opinion. Tilse is very very average, and offers very little value for one of the quota spots. I wouldn't hesitate in letting him return to Oz if that's an option. The Raiders fans I've spoken to here weren't exactly distraught at him leaving either. Again, just my (and a lot if others') opinion, doesn't make us all stupid, we just see things differently.
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:42 am  
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It's not a stupid comment, it's his opinion. Tilse is very very average, and offers very little value for one of the quota spots. I wouldn't hesitate in letting him return to Oz if that's an option. The Raiders fans I've spoken to here weren't exactly distraught at him leaving either. Again, just my (and a lot if others') opinion, doesn't make us all stupid, we just see things differently.

It's not stupid to have an opinion but it is stupid to say he is one of the worst signings ever he's a lot better than Clinton , crossman , and numerous others I could mention
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:52 am  
Really glad Dixon has been shown faith by Chester, if he didn't pick him it would be extremely hard for Dixon to pick himself up. Hopefully he has a decent game and starts to build a bit of confidence.

Surprised Cockayne isn't included but not that bothered to be honest. Salter is very average but definitely a 110% player who bleeds red and white. He will be back to back up player next year behind Thornley/Minns.

Marsh should start every game at 7 till the end of the season unless we were to lose a couple on the bounce, Kelly then passes a late fitness test and takes his place..
Ha. He looked good against Widnes and like someone said he has to be selected ahead of Chisholm if that decision has to be made.

Finally Tilse is average, not terrible. People just expect overseas players to be superstars and when they're not it's disappointing. If Tilse was a homegrown player nobody would be on his back like some are. That being said I think we could get someone better in an overseas spot but that's not Tilse's fault.
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:05 am  
Crossman and Clinton together the worse props for Rovers ever.
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:17 am  
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It's not stupid to have an opinion but it is stupid to say he is one of the worst signings ever he's a lot better than Clinton , crossman , and numerous others I could mention


Can't argue with that at all. He's still a waste of an overseas spot, and Green should have had his place at Wembley imo. Hope he proves me wrong and has a strong finish to the season.
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Re: Squad to play wakefield. : Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:25 am  
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Really glad Dixon has been shown faith by Chester, if he didn't pick him it would be extremely hard for Dixon to pick himself up. Hopefully he has a decent game and starts to build a bit of confidence.

Surprised Cockayne isn't included but not that bothered to be honest. Salter is very average but definitely a 110% player who bleeds red and white. He will be back to back up player next year behind Thornley/Minns.

Marsh should start every game at 7 till the end of the season unless we were to lose a couple on the bounce, Kelly then passes a late fitness test and takes his place..
Ha. He looked good against Widnes and like someone said he has to be selected ahead of Chisholm if that decision has to be made.

Finally Tilse is average, not terrible. People just expect overseas players to be superstars and when they're not it's disappointing. If Tilse was a homegrown player nobody would be on his back like some are. That being said I think we could get someone better in an overseas spot but that's not Tilse's fault.

I agree with most of that, Marsh should play every game & only play Kelly if desperate, or play him with Kelly at 6. Chisholm should not get in in front of him. I think Tilse is a good player & we may expect to much of him? or that most British players are better than the Aussies/ our own fans give us credit for. Not many outside the city rated Josh Hodgson but he has ripped the NRL apart from day one.
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