: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:09 am  

Irregs #16 wrote:

Dont think i ever saw an offload from Scott while at Hull, maybe something he should work on, but not every prop has the ability to produce a "good" offload

I agree with you on this. I thought Wheeldon drove the ball very well and he took a couple of VERY big hits and did not get phased at all, plus he regularly took a number of tacklers back a few yards. Perhaps if this his is capability strength wise, Morgan could get some coaching done to improve the area of slipping the ball out, if he watcheed the DVD of the game the Celtic forwards had this off to a tee.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:16 am  

rover49 wrote:

I agree with you on this. I thought Wheeldon drove the ball very well and he took a couple of VERY big hits and did not get phased at all, plus he regularly took a number of tacklers back a few yards. Perhaps if this his is capability strength wise, Morgan could get some coaching done to improve the area of slipping the ball out, if he watcheed the DVD of the game the Celtic forwards had this off to a tee.

....and they ended up getting thumped

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:17 am  

Good solid debut, did enough to earn a place next week ahead of Macca/Netherton.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:21 am  

rover49 wrote:

I agree with you on this. I thought Wheeldon drove the ball very well and he took a couple of VERY big hits and did not get phased at all, plus he regularly took a number of tacklers back a few yards. Perhaps if this his is capability strength wise, Morgan could get some coaching done to improve the area of slipping the ball out, if he watcheed the DVD of the game the Celtic forwards had this off to a tee.

Not every prop needs to do this though, if you coach them into trying for an offload, is it to the detriment of his leg drive in the collision? Look at Danny Sculthorpe, when fit he is one of the best offloaders in SL, yet when he hits the collision that is all he trys, instead of continuing with the drive to look for extra yards.

Keep Scott as he is and he will go ok

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:55 am  

Gordon Gekko wrote:

....and they ended up getting thumped

Yes but that was more to do with them tyring and our pace and big hits in the second half, they have a skillful set of forwards.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:11 pm  

They did break our line a few times in the first half with some great offloads, but our scrambling defence was excellent. They put everything into the first half and still went in losing, they had very little to offer in the second half and it seemed like damage limitation at times from them.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:12 pm  

Great debut for the lad, would think it made morgs mind up yesterday that with Vella out the prop's should be Fozzard, Macca, Wheeldon and Lovegrove who was outstanding yesterday. Netherton for me just doesn't cut it at prop..

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:50 pm  

barham red wrote:

Great debut for the lad, would think it made morgs mind up yesterday that with Vella out the prop's should be Fozzard, Macca, Wheeldon and Lovegrove who was outstanding yesterday. Netherton for me just doesn't cut it at prop..

Because he ain't a prop, he is to light. Netherton, however is a good squad player to have and never lets us down, he is much better as a scond rower operating wide.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:01 pm  

Top debut looking for a solid season from the lad. Dont forget he is young but he has SL experiance

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:12 pm  

rover49 wrote:

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Because he ain't a prop, he is to light. Netherton, however is a good squad player to have and never lets us down, he is much better as a scond rower operating wide.

Fully agree but morgs seems to be trying to use him and Lovegrove as rotation props, this seems to be suiting Rhys but not Jason. If he's on the bench for his versitility then fine but it doesn't seem to be that and I think Wheeldon is the better option for this role.