Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:28 am  

Tarquin Fuego wrote:

Up the Cream steal the show with 50 shades of sh*te

It may have been a 50-0 loss, but Hull KR were after all Wembley record breakers; suffering a record Challenge Cup final defeat and a record margin of defeat. Every cloud.
It’s common knowledge that Hull KR fans never ever bag their players. They never leave early either. Hahaha.
Wembley, Wembley, you’re the rubbish Kingston Rovers and you were nilled at Wembley.
Rumours are circulating that Shaun Lunt ripped his contract up after Hull KR failed to deliver their promise of major final success. You’d think a 30 year baron run would be enough to convince him not to sign in the first place.
Giraffes don’t make good pets, and they certainly don’t make good selections, isn’t that right Dane?
Hull KR fielded just three loanees in London, a small cry from the seven fielded against Halifax. Cheating sods.
Nil Hughell is said to be offering a new promotion scheme on let down claims, call 50-0-50-0 for more info.
Jeremy Kyle’s lie detector results are in after Grughell’s 30k bandwagon failed to deliver, instead resulting in a mass exodus after Briscoe’s fifth try.
When the Red Red Robin scores noth noth nothing at all..
Hull Kingston Chockers. Scott Taylor’s ‘Sssssshhhhhhhhh’ message went vital on social media.
Hull KR’s 10-5 bar has been abruptly altered to 10×5. We think it sounds much better.
The Wembley team coach has been understood to have gotten Rovers’ first points of the weekend, after receiving a fine for breaking the 50mph speed limit on the way home.
MISSING: ALBERT KELLY. Last seen in Kevin Sinfield’s back pocket.
It seems Adam Walker wasn’t happy with Humberside Police’s post Wembley hide and seek offer. We’ll count from one to fifty they said..
The Utterly Buttery butter brand is said to be sponsoring Kieran Dixon next year after the fullbacks Wembley nightmare.
It is also rumoured Kieran dropped his losers medal too.
Tackle Bag Tuesday! Rovers are said to be taking new measures to ensure Super League survival.
Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, you went to Wembley, and got fifty past you!
After scrapping with themselves on the biggest stage, Rovers really reinstated their scum of rugby league tag.
Hull’s latest bar 50-0 on Preston Road has been criticised after a big build up that didn’t deliver on any level.
Hull residents are said to be livid at a celebration party for a club finishing tenth and receiving a record final defeat. ‘They haven’t won anything in 30 years’, one elderly gent pointed out.
Hull KR journo Gareth Westy was fuming after his 100% final record was broken. Maybe he should have stuck to covering West Hull after all.
Breaking News: Hull KR will represent Great Britain at the next Eurovison, featuring ‘A Little Respect’, bookies are quoting 1/10 for nil pois.
The RFL has called out for closer contests for future Cup finals, it seems Rovers being out the game at twenty past three was a little too far.
Rovers are looking to reinstate Greg ‘Billy Slater’ Eden after Dixon’s latest horror show.
‘We get beat but we won’t get nilled’, the cockerel hasn’t been heard since.
East Hull’s accused are rumoured to be hiring Kieran Dixon as the court judge after rumours he drops all the charges.
We may have loved him for eighty minutes, but Tom Briscoe is still a lying judas meff. Leeds is not a suburb of Sydney.
BREAKING: All Hull KR’s 2016 matches will be shown on Comedy Central.
30k to 15k to 7.k. If Carlsberg did numbers…
Josh Mantellato is said to be furious after his Wembley kicking practise came to no avail. Should have gone to the half way line.
Hull KR players realising their 40/20 wasn’t actually a 40/20 was magical. Bless um.
Virgin boys flag outside the KC looks a little silly now, doesn’t it hahaha.
An open top bus company was left with a late cancellation last night. We’ve no idea why.
‘You’ve never won at Wembley’. Three times. Bog off.
Rovers fans scuffling on the tube. Sore losers.
Hull KR’s bandwagon is to dramatically reduce over the next seven days as they prepare for yet more mediocre championship opposition.
The old West Hull wifi tweet was doing the rounds last night. Bless um. It’s never been gone!
Chris Chester has announced Hull KR are going to Hawaii 50 for pre-season.
Is has announced that Conference North Side North Ferriby took more fans to Wembley last season. Where’s your 30k?
Dear Hull KR, we have found Terry Campese, he was at the Old Folks home back in Australia. Cheers now, Canberra Raiders.
The bridges on the River Hull will be lifted once the 7.5k exodus has returned home safely. The Lord Major wants nothing to do with um.
Kieran Dixon’s teammates say their firmly behind the troubled fullback, just in case he drops it again.
It has been revealed that Hull KR will star in next weeks series of Pointless.
Acklams have complained about serious amounts of window kicking on their coaches after their 50mph journey home. Reports say they reached East Hull at 50 minutes to 00:00.
Oh when the inbred Dobin goes sob sob sobin along…
For sale on Gumtree: One brand new kicking tee. Never been used. If interested contact Josh Mantellato. On 01482 50-0-50-0
Hull KR fans were left stranded for three hours after leaving Wembley on the fifty minute mark. Ouch.
Ryan Hall sitting Albert Kelly down. Comedy gold.
Hull Kingston Rovers.

TOO MUCH TIME, TOO LITTLE INTELLIGENCE AND NO CLASS.

Remind us how far FC got in all competitions this year

[Kosh]

Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:29 am  

deslawson wrote:

Morning mate,a day to forget and two hours stuck in the car park didn't help,extra long journey home to say the least.

I never park near the stadium - always a nightmare getting out. Best idea is parking at one of the outer Tube stations and taking the tube in. Can be cheaper as well.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:04 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I think Chester deserves another year, but he really needs to bring in 4/5 quality players, which is going to be tough with no quota places or I dont see you challenging for the top 8 next year,

Yeah, there's a risk of knee-jerk, I suppose, but yesterday was a sobering reminder of how big the gap to the top teams can be when they use that 'extra gear' they seem to have. We get these reminders at least a couple of times a season, it seems, and it is never pleasant. Even less so on that stage.

I definitely don't want another revolving door recruitment cycle. But there are some glaring weaknesses in the squad which were reflected consistently throughout the season as well as yesterday. Tbh, I don't think Leeds represent a sensible yardstick in the short or medium term. It'll be interesting to hear Jamie Peacock's take on it - whether you have to aim for the top, or be more realistic. He seems up for the challenge, but after so much success, getting his head around chasing 7th or 8th might take some adjustment.

Last year's supermarket sweep approach to recruitment, which ended up carrying on long into the season, inevitably led to some imbalance. Lots of loose forwards for example. I still think there's something to build on, but I think you are right and it needs to be 4 or 5 rather than just 2 or 3.

Minns is promising, rather than proven. Thornley is decent but has had his injury problems. Clarkson seems like a solid pro, but won't exactly add a lot of power to the backrow. We desperately need some go forward from our pack.

Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:15 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

Yeah, there's a risk of knee-jerk, I suppose, but yesterday was a sobering reminder of how big the gap to the top teams can be when they use that 'extra gear' they seem to have. We get these reminders at least a couple of times a season, it seems, and it is never pleasant. Even less so on that stage.

I definitely don't want another revolving door recruitment cycle. But there are some glaring weaknesses in the squad which were reflected consistently throughout the season as well as yesterday. Tbh, I don't think Leeds represent a sensible yardstick in the short or medium term. It'll be interesting to hear Jamie Peacock's take on it - whether you have to aim for the top, or be more realistic. He seems up for the challenge, but after so much success, getting his head around chasing 7th or 8th might take some adjustment.

Last year's supermarket sweep approach to recruitment, which ended up carrying on long into the season, inevitably led to some imbalance. Lots of loose forwards for example. I still think there's something to build on, but I think you are right and it needs to be 4 or 5 rather than just 2 or 3.

Minns is promising, rather than proven. Thornley is decent but has had his injury problems. Clarkson seems like a solid pro, but won't exactly add a lot of power to the backrow. We desperately need some go forward from our pack.

Serious question then, how much input does Chester have into recruitment? And should Mike Smith take a lot of the heat? From an outsider looking in, it seems to me that each year MS takes a month long paid holiday to Australia and comes homes with several players he has lined up and passes them to Chester. Now granted he has found some gems over the years, Dobson for example, but when it doesnt go well he should be equally responsible?

Maybe I'm wrong and there is more to it? I just think any manager job is more difficult when decisions about who signs for the club are made by someone else? I get the feeling LR had more say (I may be wrong about that too).

But plenty of flack flying around about the team, certain players and some towards Chester, and yet no mention of MS who it seems from the outside is primarily responsible for the squad they have built?

[Mild Rover]

Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:50 am  

Jimmy Carr wrote:

Serious question then, how much input does Chester have into recruitment? And should Mike Smith take a lot of the heat? From an outsider looking in, it seems to me that each year MS takes a month long paid holiday to Australia and comes homes with several players he has lined up and passes them to Chester. Now granted he has found some gems over the years, Dobson for example, but when it doesnt go well he should be equally responsible?

Maybe I'm wrong and there is more to it? I just think any manager job is more difficult when decisions about who signs for the club are made by someone else? I get the feeling LR had more say (I may be wrong about that too).

But plenty of flack flying around about the team, certain players and some towards Chester, and yet no mention of MS who it seems from the outside is primarily responsible for the squad they have built?

It's a reasonable question, but not one that I can answer. My impression is that Smith is more a contracts man than an identifier of talent, so he wouldn't be somebody I'd immediately think to apportion blame or credit to, in this regard.

I think the 'what next?' question that followed Morgan's departure was never answered convincingly. First there was the focus on 'potential', then later on grizzled old pros who wouldn't bullied, then Chester cleared then decks again.
If we're to move on and up, I think we need a more coherent and consistent strategy - philosophy even. Perhaps Peacock can provide that vision.

It hasn't been all bad these last 4 years by any stretch, and there were bad days under Morgan, but it has felt a bit... I'm struggling for the right word. We've kind of drifted, I guess.

Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:55 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

It's a reasonable question, but not one that I can answer. My impression is that Smith is more a contracts man than an identifier of talent, so he wouldn't be somebody I'd immediately think to apportion blame or credit to, in this regard.

I think the 'what next?' question that followed Morgan's departure was never answered convincingly. First there was the focus on 'potential', then later on grizzled old pros who wouldn't bullied, then Chester cleared then decks again.
If we're to move on and up, I think we need a more coherent and consistent strategy - philosophy even. Perhaps Peacock can provide that vision.

It hasn't been all bad these last 4 years by any stretch, and there were bad days under Morgan, but it has felt a bit... I'm struggling for the right word. We've kind of drifted, I guess.

I think Peacock is a very clever addition to the club, I'm surprised Leeds have let this happen.

He will bring a winning mentality to the club, I wouldn't be surprised to see him as first team coach come the end of next season? I know not all great players make great coaches, but its hard to see how a team couldn't be inspired by someone like him, arguably the best forward this country has ever produced and a top bloke to boot.

You wouldn't have lost 50-0 yesterday with him in charge I doubt...

Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:13 am  

Kosh wrote:

I never park near the stadium - always a nightmare getting out. Best idea is parking at one of the outer Tube stations and taking the tube in. Can be cheaper as well.

Your right I parked at Stanmore was home for 9.30

[Mild Rover]

Re: Oh dear : Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:34 am  

Jimmy Carr wrote:

I think Peacock is a very clever addition to the club, I'm surprised Leeds have let this happen.

He will bring a winning mentality to the club, I wouldn't be surprised to see him as first team coach come the end of next season? I know not all great players make great coaches, but its hard to see how a team couldn't be inspired by someone like him, arguably the best forward this country has ever produced and a top bloke to boot.

You wouldn't have lost 50-0 yesterday with him in charge I doubt...

I don't think that is what he wants. he's identified a role where he believes he can make a difference, but it needs time and space that a head coach, constantly at the mercy of results, never gets.

You look at Leeds or Saints - the coaches change, but the results keep coming. A lot of that is to do with resource. But the the stuff around systems, process and culture, making the most of what you do have, is where I hope he make a difference.

My one concern is that he's always been at clubs with lots of resource available. Working within the constraints of Rovers budget might be difficult. If you know hiring another 5 back room staff would make a difference, being told it isn't affordable might be frustrating.

Re: Oh dear : Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:53 am  

Jimmy Carr wrote:

Serious question then, how much input does Chester have into recruitment? And should Mike Smith take a lot of the heat? From an outsider looking in, it seems to me that each year MS takes a month long paid holiday to Australia and comes homes with several players he has lined up and passes them to Chester. Now granted he has found some gems over the years, Dobson for example, but when it doesnt go well he should be equally responsible?

Maybe I'm wrong and there is more to it? I just think any manager job is more difficult when decisions about who signs for the club are made by someone else? I get the feeling LR had more say (I may be wrong about that too).

But plenty of flack flying around about the team, certain players and some towards Chester, and yet no mention of MS who it seems from the outside is primarily responsible for the squad they have built?

Not sure Mike Smith can be blamed for players who are signed, Rovers have people over there who recommend players and ultimately Phil Lowe and Chester will decide if they want them from dvd's.

Had Rovers not lost the final in such horrendous fashion I am not sure the finger pointing would be so deep however it should have been.

Willie Poaching is clueless, the players are happy to tell anyone who will listen.

And who on earth decided that kicking the ball dead from every set was a good tactic to deal with Hall, Briscoe, Hardaker etc? Did they not realise that by doing that and not turning these guys around you are just keeping them fresh to destroy you later?

It should have been kicked in and around the try line with good kick chase to ensure when they turned around the players mentioned were smashed near their own line.

Re: Oh dear : Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:13 pm  

Kosh wrote:

I never park near the stadium - always a nightmare getting out. Best idea is parking at one of the outer Tube stations and taking the tube in. Can be cheaper as well.

No choice mate we went on coach.If we go again in car I would take your point without doubt.