[Wanderer]

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:53 am  

As has been said earlier on the thread, this was an accident waiting to happen. It was pretty obvious from about 5 minutes into the game that the stewards were unable to control those from Queens (deliberately avoids referring to them as supporters).

By the time the second half got underway, the sitution was clearly spiralling out of control. Someone connected with the Stadium Management / Security should have got the police down then.

I find it totally staggering that it appears that it was supporters who sought the attendance of the police (was told this around the time they arrived).
As for the players from Queens, there were a couple of them who made their way over to the area where the trouble had broken out. I'm prepared to accept the they may have had family in that area and were concerned for their safety - I may be giving credit there where it's not due? Either way, applauding people who had been involved in trouble just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

The fact that this is not the first time that followers of this Club have caused trouble suggests that they are 'getting away with their animalistic behaviour' and unless the Club is sanctioned, they will expect to continue to behave in this way!

To conclude, a very sad day for Doncaster RLFC and for Rugby League in general.

I was sat having a drink about 6 o'clock and was almost speechless and in all honesty somewhat disillusioned. I don't like the 'Keepmoat experience' at the best of times and that is just another nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned.

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:03 pm  

There were no police at the game until half time. This was because the satium management didnt anticipate any trouble so didnt see the need for the police presence.

At half time one of the match officials (think it was the TJ on the far side) complained that he had been spat at and also had a missile thrown at him from the Queens section of the crowd. At that point the police were asked to come to the ground but for reasons unknown they stood in the control room (at the opposite side of the ground to where the fans were)

I saw the trouble start and it was at least 3mins before a steward got anywhere near. IMO the level of stewarding on the game was not good enough and had Doncaster had done a little research they would have known about Queens reputation.

The referee was left with little option when 20 police officers ran across the middle of the pitch during play.

From what i was told the reason for the fighting in the crowd was down to an incident that happened last week at the Queens v Moorend game. Apparently after the match they were fighting in a pub at Moorend. For some reason Moorend players/supporters had decided to sit amongst the Queens crowd in the second half.

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:06 pm  

has an offical statement been made from any part either club or the rfl been made yet?

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:19 pm  

PBGIANT wrote:

There were no police at the game until half time. This was because the satium management didnt anticipate any trouble so didnt see the need for the police presence.

At half time one of the match officials (think it was the TJ on the far side) complained that he had been spat at and also had a missile thrown at him from the Queens section of the crowd. At that point the police were asked to come to the ground but for reasons unknown they stood in the control room (at the opposite side of the ground to where the fans were)

I saw the trouble start and it was at least 3mins before a steward got anywhere near. IMO the level of stewarding on the game was not good enough and had Doncaster had done a little research they would have known about Queens reputation.

The referee was left with little option when 20 police officers ran across the middle of the pitch during play.

From what i was told the reason for the fighting in the crowd was down to an incident that happened last week at the Queens v Moorend game. Apparently after the match they were fighting in a pub at Moorend. For some reason Moorend players/supporters had decided to sit amongst the Queens crowd in the second half.

I don't know where you got that info from but there was no trouble at all between the Moorends & Queens players last week.. The Queens players and their 'genuine' fans all came back to the Social after the game for a drink and they were all perfectly ok... Moorends have played them twice this season and on both occasions they have been good hard games, with no bad feeling afterwards...

As for the Moorends lads purposely sitting in with the Queens fans in the second half, that is not true.. They had been sat on that side all through the game, as were a lot of other Donny fans... It wouldnt have mattered where they had sat to be honest,, those thugs were gonna kick off anyway..

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:32 pm  

PBGIANT wrote:

and had Doncaster had done a little research they would have known about Queens reputation

Now according to the club they did inform the SMC of the potential problems of Queens ARLFC. What more can the Dons do then?
They only pay rent to play there. It isn't for them to manage the other aspects of using the stadium.

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:50 pm  

from Sporting Life.com

The Rugby Football League will rule on the outcome of Saturday's Carnegie Challenge Cup third-round tie between Doncaster and Leeds amateur outfit Queens after it was abandoned due to crowd trouble.

Doncaster trailed 2-0 at half-time but had fought back to lead 16-12 when trouble broke out and the referee called a halt after 61 minutes.

Although it was a home tie for the amateurs, the match was switched to Doncaster's Keepmoat Stadium.

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:04 pm  

Arkel wrote:

The kind of behaviour that the Queen's 'fans' were displaying would
never have been tolerated at a Rovers match. It would have been
stamped on straight away. However, having said that, had the stewards
kicked the offending fans out then I think the rest would have kicked off
big time and there was not enough stewards in place to deal with a situation of that magnitude.
The Police should have been called earlier.

Regarding the thug who smacked the young lad, I hope he gets the book
thrown at him. The lad did nothing. He was just walking by and the idiot
took a swipe at him then he tried to attack the heavily pregnant woman
who was trying to protect the lad. A BRAVE MAN INDEED.

The Stewards were similarly impotent at the Fev game.

Time for a rethink.

What aload of rubbish!! i was in the crowd where it all kicked off the only reason it kicked off was because a few fans from doncaster were chanting racist comments to our fans. Yes some of the queens fans had alot to drink and some should of been thrown out but this still doesnt deserve racist abuse from Your fans!! and the incident with the "young lad" what young lad is this???? because thats aload of bollox and so is that about a pregnant woman the only person who got involved in the punch up was a steward who you have mistaken for a young lad....

[Wanderer]

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:09 pm  

The incident with the 'young lad' certainly happened and the culprit was subsequently taken away by the police.

For your info this was away from the main area of trouble.

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:12 pm  

CHURCHILL wrote:

Queens at it again. With a name like that no wonder they feel the need to prove they are 'real' men. (TOSSERS)

Going back a few years now but they came to Craven Park in the cup, similar sorts of problems, pi$$ed up, having a go at anyone that crossed their path, including the elderly and kids, so all in all they've been at it again, let's hope they RFL sort them out once and for all.

What a penis u are... its 2009 its a new team the players had nothing to do with the incident so why is it all on them?? yes a hand full of fans had too much to drink but like ive said that doesnt deserve racist chants from other fans

: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:14 pm  

WANDERER wrote:

The incident with the 'young lad' certainly happened and the culprit was subsequently taken away by the police.

For your info this was away from the main area of trouble.

the only reason the lad got arrested was because he hit a steward nothing to do with a little kid if this is true then he deserves everything he gets the match should be replayed behind closed doors... queens would of won the game they were on top in the 2nd half and had doncaster on the back foot