Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:05 pm  

Sadly there are more club doncaster ground troopers and brown noses than us realistic die hards! Too many 'supporters' are just glad they have a team to support so the tight old coggers who own club doncaster love the fact we have stagnant fans who will pay up and don't moan. I called Mr Hall out on in the dugout about failures and accountability and he shut the question down and 2wk later it wasn't a thing, does that border on being a dictatorship club???

Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:47 pm  

He only like's prepared and carefully curated questions, Horne has not delivered what he has promissed for 6 years (we been close) but not achieved his goal - if my work performance was only close to meeting my targets I'd currently not have a job especially if I consistantly failed to achieved said goals year on year.

There is little/no connection between Horne and the suppporters he see's us an annoyance and an inconvenience, doesnt give us information or anything that excites about the team. I will be very suprised if there is a post match video from him after yesterday - but to be honest I think every Dons fan who attened deserves an apology from him (as he's ulitimately responsible for on pitch matters).

Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:08 pm  

Kick and chase wrote:

Sadly there are more club doncaster ground troopers and brown noses than us realistic die hards! Too many 'supporters' are just glad they have a team to support so the tight old coggers who own club doncaster love the fact we have stagnant fans who will pay up and don't moan. I called Mr Hall out on in the dugout about failures and accountability and he shut the question down and 2wk later it wasn't a thing, does that border on being a dictatorship club???

I was part of the Dons Fans Panel at that time along with Wanderer. Wanderer may remember this too, In the Dugout was pulled by Chief Operating Officer, Shaun Lockwood, not by Carl Hall.

I made several requests for it to be brought back as I felt In The Dugout was an important part of keeping the club and fans connected but it never happened.

Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:16 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

I was part of the Dons Fans Panel at that time along with Wanderer. Wanderer may remember this too, In the Dugout was pulled by Chief Operating Officer, Shaun Lockwood, not by Carl Hall.

I made several requests for it to be brought back as I felt In The Dugout was an important part of keeping the club and fans connected but it never happened.

Like Mr Roebuck says above their arrogance and ego only allows them to answer pre-scripted soft questions. Your forced to along with everything that's served up without a whimper or any questioning and if you don't you get froze out, it's very much akin to being in a cult.

Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:49 pm  

Kick and chase wrote:

Like Mr Roebuck says above their arrogance and ego only allows them to answer pre-scripted soft questions. Your forced to along with everything that's served up without a whimper or any questioning and if you don't you get froze out, it's very much akin to being in a cult.

I'm not sure it's arrogance and ego, I think it's more about controlling the narrative and wanting to permanently market the club in a positive light - reducing criticism and negativity from the equation.

From a marketing perspective, if 8 out of 10 people agree with you, the two dissenters are not going to be seen as allies. They may reduce the people who agree with you down to seven. Marketers believe it is better not to give them a platform. This is the type of world we live in: marketing rules. Businesses everywhere do everything they can to manipulate us.

Off topic, but with regards to marketing, I cannot believe how supermarkets get away with 'members prices' and 'non-members prices'. They're not giving 'members' a genuine discount - although this is what they're trying to portray. Indirectly, they're trying to force people to sign up to their 'schemes' as they make money from selling on our data. I refuse to shop anywhere that operates such poor practices.

Personally, I would rather answer any questions head on and try to bring the two out of ten (referred to above) back onside as I'm old school and believe honesty and openness is the best policy.

[Wanderer]

Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:29 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

I was part of the Dons Fans Panel at that time along with Wanderer. Wanderer may remember this too, In the Dugout was pulled by Chief Operating Officer, Shaun Lockwood, not by Carl Hall.

I made several requests for it to be brought back as I felt In The Dugout was an important part of keeping the club and fans connected but it never happened.

I do and I recall your requests but as with much (almost all) of what happened around that time, decisions were made and were non-negotiable, merely presented to the Panel so that the phrase 'discussed with the Fan Panel' could subsequently be used.

Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:46 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

I'm not sure it's arrogance and ego, I think it's more about controlling the narrative and wanting to permanently market the club in a positive light - reducing criticism and negativity from the equation.

From a marketing perspective, if 8 out of 10 people agree with you, the two dissenters are not going to be seen as allies. They may reduce the people who agree with you down to seven. Marketers believe it is better not to give them a platform. This is the type of world we live in: marketing rules. Businesses everywhere do everything they can to manipulate us.

Off topic, but with regards to marketing, I cannot believe how supermarkets get away with 'members prices' and 'non-members prices'. They're not giving 'members' a genuine discount - although this is what they're trying to portray. Indirectly, they're trying to force people to sign up to their 'schemes' as they make money from selling on our data. I refuse to shop anywhere that operates such poor practices.

Personally, I would rather answer any questions head on and try to bring the two out of ten (referred to above) back onside as I'm old school and believe honesty and openness is the best policy.

A bit like politics DM placation through verbal platitudes. And like politics I've had enough of it.

I cant help but think that there could be a lot riding on the RL format for 2025 and the IMG soundings. Call it what you will with my rambling musings but I am of the belief that given our stadium, the community work and our continuous near miss promotion campaigns, we will end up in the newly formatted Championship section. Thus negating any promotion that may happen this season. Maybe the CEO is aware of this maybe he isn't. Time will tell.

Re: Horne : Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 pm  

On the game: 'Wasn't a good enough performance' 'they handled the conditions better' On what they will do to rectify things: 'work hard'. Absolutely inspirational words from our egnamic coach! Makes you wanna run through a brick wall for him

Re: Horne : Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:15 pm  

The fact that we were given the runaround by a 37-year old who simply knew how to play the conditions begs the question as to what coaching is being done.

When it’s been raining for the best part of two days before the match, surely it’s not beyond the capabilities of anyone that’s ever watched a game to work out some basic tactics.

I’m getting to the point where I’m expecting yet another ‘glorious’ failure in the playoffs this year, followed by the usual hard-luck excuses.

Re: Horne : Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:40 pm  

Run by pack of del boys 'next year we will be millionaires' sadly that year never comes and the same people remain.