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Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:53 pm  
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I know fook all about club finances but surely taking a licence off a current SL club that is saddled with at least a couple of million £s debt (I'm not referring to any particular club) will force that club into administration/liquidation. I think by it's very nature any club thrown out of SL will not have a rich benefactor and I fail to see how any club could service such large debts with no central funding from SKY.



Very good point , one I have not seen pointed out before , Put it up on the VT , that should stir them up a bit :wink:
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Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:54 pm  
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I know fook all about club finances but surely taking a licence off a current SL club that is saddled with at least a couple of million £s debt (I'm not referring to any particular club) will force that club into administration/liquidation. I think by it's very nature any club thrown out of SL will not have a rich benefactor and I fail to see how any club could service such large debts with no central funding from SKY.



That's a very interesting point. The fact that a club can rack up massive debts trying to compete in SL and actually make themselves un-relegatable, because it would immediately cause their demise, shows the complete absurdity of the licence system and the whole process thereof.

I have thought about this, but the RFL have clearly stated that a SL club will definitely be relegated. Therefore, some poor club is probably looking at oblivion. The whole thing is a complete mess.
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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy.


A wind up merchant but a good lad.


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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote]

OOpps - nowt changes !!

[b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!!
Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !!
Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!!
Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!!
Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:10 pm  
Barrow are light years behind Widnes, Fax and even Leigh.

There is a connection that these 3 clubs have been in SL before :!:

SL can do one as far as I'm concerned. For what is happening, SL is causing more damage than good. Lots of clubs are massively in debt and it will only take time before they go bust.

Let Barrow go up I say. A god few tonkins will soon make them a laughing stock, and the 'self important' nice person of a Chairman will realise that there is more to RL than SL and Sky. Crowds will dwindle back to 600-800 and they can get back to their 60 mile local derbies at Workington (oh, SL has already stuffed them once hasn't it?)

Widnes are the only team outside SL with the infrastructure in place, and unfortunately, thats a fact. With the way things are going (and we are only in year 1 of the franchise), I can see SL begging some Championship clubs to come up 2012 with some potential big casualties along the way (and the bloody North Wrexham Crusaders (or whatever they are bloody called) won't be one of them (they will be gone by 2011!) :lol:
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Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:21 pm  
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Apparently it cost £12m.

Source: http://www.warringtonwolves.org/Halliwell.ink


http://www.barr.co.uk/brochures/stadia.pdf ..... page 8. £6.8M actually, I was a tad under.
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Apparently it cost £12m.

Source: http://www.warringtonwolves.org/Halliwell.ink


http://www.barr.co.uk/brochures/stadia.pdf ..... page 8. £6.8M actually, I was a tad under.
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Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:29 pm  
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Barrow are light years behind Widnes, Fax and even Leigh.



In what way are Barrow 'light years' behind Fax and Leigh ???? Our crowds are as big (if not bigger), we have 2 trophies in the cabinet and that is just after 1 year at the higher level. Both Fax and Leigh play in better stadia, but why does renting a 'nice' ground once a fortnight make them better clubs ?? Fax, Leigh and Widnes have all played in SL and were ultimately relegated. Hardly a great track record at the higher level.
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Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:54 pm  
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Barrow are light years behind Widnes, Fax and even Leigh.

There is a connection that these 3 clubs have been in SL before :!:

SL can do one as far as I'm concerned. For what is happening, SL is causing more damage than good. Lots of clubs are massively in debt and it will only take time before they go bust.

Let Barrow go up I say. A god few tonkins will soon make them a laughing stock, and the 'self important' nice person of a Chairman will realise that there is more to RL than SL and Sky. Crowds will dwindle back to 600-800 and they can get back to their 60 mile local derbies at Workington (oh, SL has already stuffed them once hasn't it?)

Widnes are the only team outside SL with the infrastructure in place, and unfortunately, thats a fact. With the way things are going (and we are only in year 1 of the franchise), I can see SL begging some Championship clubs to come up 2012 with some potential big casualties along the way (and the bloody North Wrexham Crusaders (or whatever they are bloody called) won't be one of them (they will be gone by 2011!) :lol:


I agree with every sentiment in this post except the word "unfortunately", but we all know you didn't mean it Snowy Lad.

Throw him in the keep net, another Widnes Vikings fan to put to the ever growing list. Well done Snowy! :thumb:
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Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:58 pm  
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I agree with every sentiment in this post except the word "unfortunately", but we all know you didn't mean it Snowy Lad.

Throw him in the keep net, another Widnes Vikings fan to put to the ever growing list. Well done Snowy! :thumb:


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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy.


A wind up merchant but a good lad.


:lol:[/quote]

[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote]

OOpps - nowt changes !!

[b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!!
Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !!
Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!!
Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!!
Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:02 pm  
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In what way are Barrow 'light years' behind Fax and Leigh ???? Our crowds are as big (if not bigger), we have 2 trophies in the cabinet and that is just after 1 year at the higher level. Both Fax and Leigh play in better stadia, but why does renting a 'nice' ground once a fortnight make them better clubs ?? Fax, Leigh and Widnes have all played in SL and were ultimately relegated. Hardly a great track record at the higher level.


You really are deluded Pal. Barrow averaged a few hundred more than Leigh. So what? Swap positions, and Leigh would have been easily averaging 3000 +
If you had half of the quality amateur clubs that Widnes, Leigh and Halifax have, then you might have a point.

I think you are going to be in for a pretty difficult season. Lets see how your twitchy chairman reacts to it because you will lose a few, and you wont win the league !

As for Warringtons ground (and coming from a good source living in Warrington), the total cost was 8.2m which will rise further when the capacity is increased. Having played at Craven Park a few times, then I agree that a couple of million or so will need spending. Its a good little ground but it is falling to pieces. Develop it all you want, but Barrow in my opinion will never be in SL ! :!:

Sure to see yourself and the 90 or so Barrow fans travelling down the M6 for the Sky game next year. My heart is always filled with cheer when we are privilidged to see such an away following! :wink:
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:lol:[/quote]

[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote]

OOpps - nowt changes !!

[b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!!
Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !!
Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!!
Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!!
Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:05 pm  
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Easy tiger !!!

Just stating the obvious. I used to have a soft spot for Barrow but they really are getting as irritating as the HKR fans we onced put up with !

Oh, are they the club 3m+ in debt yet still getting attendances of 9k + :?:

Unbelievable!
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Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:16 pm  
to be fair to HKR, they were actually better than us that season where it counted-on the field, the self proclaimed king of kings were sailing towards super league and they knew it.

That system is now gone and thankfully for us snowy our club is well positioned to take advantage of the current rules and Barrow are far behind us where it now matters in this respect.
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