Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:18 pm  

J20 wrote:

Is anyone suprised by this reaction? Widnes, Leigh and even Fax having ticked a box as well haven't got too carried away as we know it's all about Franchising!

Yet Barrow come in buy the title (fair play) and now suddenly from them it's a disgarce and should be P&R and Widnes are a joke and

When your SL big get's laughed at why don't you ask Dezzy we he signed Henderson rather than improved the ground? Why did he keep all big names even though tick gone and not get a youth set up running?

Your club is the one's who need to go back to school, as you've made the step up and want to be one of the cool kids but what you've missed is you've had your fly undone the whole time!

The reason Des kept a strong team is because he is obviously a winner and not a Redhall butt kisser !

Leigh ticked the box ? Buy the title ? Did Barrow have a bigger salary cap than anyone else ?

Try again

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:21 pm  

Gary High wrote:

Erm Fax have won absolutely nothing - Correct ? They have been consistent but have nothing to show for it.

Fev are without question the better team this year and should be going up to SL based on ON FIELD PERFORMANCE - I will not deny that one. League Leaders in the bag and odds on Fav's for the Grand Final.

I will say it again WIDNES WILL BE THE WORST TEAM EVER TO GAIN A SL FRANCHISE AS THEY HAVEN'T WON ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT i.e finished TOP of the league (as Barrow and Fev have) or appeared in a Grand Final (as Barrow and Halifax have). If you want to go on about your NRC win then that puts you about as successful as Batley doesn't it ? I can without question say that based on last season and this season, Barrow are a better team than Widnes even with some very poor performances this year. You have simply played the bumming Redhall game better.

For the record (and have a look back if you can manage it) I have said Halifax have been the most consistent performers for the last 2 years as the tables don't lie but have simply bottled the big games. Widnes have simply not been good enough to deserve a Franchise based on merit.

Maybe had the league been about P&R the Widnes club may have provided its supporters with a team to be proud of...........However hindsight is a wonderful thing !

Enjoy school tomorrow

That's P&R. You do know that this is no longer the route to promotion, don't you?

Things have changed. You need a new arguement.

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:22 pm  

Gary High wrote:

Buy the title ? Did Barrow have a bigger salary cap than anyone else ?

The reason Des kept a strong team is because he is obviously a winner and not a Redhall butt kisser !

Try again

You're boring, repetitive and wrong.

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:26 pm  

Gary High wrote:

The reason Des kept a strong team is because he is obviously a winner and not a Redhall butt kisser !

Leigh ticked the box ? Buy the title ? Did Barrow have a bigger salary cap than anyone else ?

Try again

Selective reading I see! Leigh didn't in the end but they knew 100% focus on doing so wouldn't get them in SL so they also budgeted for other things!

Barrow came up spent hugely on players and it got them the title as I said fair play but you know that won't get you into SL so stop being daft and pretending it will do!

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:28 pm  

Gary High wrote:

Pepe you are only as good as your last performance mate

So unless you win GF again you'll admit not near good enough for SL?

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:29 pm  

Pepe wrote:

That's P&R. You do know that this is no longer the route to promotion, don't you?

Things have changed. You need a new arguement.

You are correct. However things have changed for the worse haven't they ?

You see Dickie and his cronies were supposed to be making the game stronger and stopping clubs going to the wall.

Has their ridiculous master plan worked ? No !

Has England beaten the Aussies ? No were further away than ever !

Have more clubs needed bail outs or gone into administration ? Yes

Have the heartlands been ignored in the name of expansion ? Yes

Sounds like this whole Franchising lark has been a massive success doesn't it ?

This could go on forever. I disagree with the whole kiss Redhall's butt thing but heyho thats how they want it !

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:30 pm  

J20 wrote:

So unless you win GF again you'll admit not near good enough for SL?

Absolutely 100%

I will say again "Barrow should by rights have just had its 1st season in Super League. Fev should be looking forward to theirs"

Simples

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:35 pm  

Gary High wrote:

Absolutely 100%

I will say again "Barrow should by rights have just had its 1st season in Super League. Fev should be looking forward to theirs"

Simples

As said earlier your two years behind fella! It's pointless debating that talk as we all ate were we are, like it or not!

Peoe said same thing about SL playoffs but now you get no mention of league leaders being real 'champions' etc!

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:36 pm  

J20 wrote:

As said earlier your two years behind fella! It's pointless debating that talk as we all ate were we are, like it or not!

Peoe said same thing about SL playoffs but now you get no mention of league leaders being real 'champions' etc!

Yeah I agree. This has been flogged to death now.

Enjoy your off season (sorry had to have one last dig lol)

Re: WIDNES ARE CHEATS!! : Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:44 pm  

Gary High wrote:

Pepe you are only as good as your last performance mate

And your point is?

Because within the context of this discussion, it is pretty meaningless – childish crowing aside, of course.

Gary High wrote:

You are correct. However things have changed for the worse haven't they ?

Yes

Gary High wrote:

You see Dickie and his cronies were supposed to be making the game stronger and stopping clubs going to the wall.

Has their ridiculous master plan worked ? No !

Has England beaten the Aussies ? No were further away than ever !

Have more clubs needed bail outs or gone into administration ? Yes

Have the heartlands been ignored in the name of expansion ? Yes

Sounds like this whole Franchising lark has been a massive success doesn't it ?

This could go on forever. I disagree with the whole kiss Redhall's butt thing but heyho thats how they want it !

And you are blaming Widnes for all this are you?